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  • Skoad
    Registered User
    • Feb 2002
    • 3265

    #1

    Loctite on pin valve?

    When you take off and put back on a pin valve on a co2 tank, if/what kind of loctite are you supposed to use?



    For some reason i keep thinking i read somewhere that you don't loctite it back on, but that sounded strange to me.
  • joshweinerhead
    NO TEAMer
    • Jul 2003
    • 457

    #2
    red loctite .. loctite the whole thing except the first few threads ..


    Where did the Old AO go?

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    • ASDadam
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 587

      #3
      If you plan on taking the pin valve off again no Loctite is fine. If not, Blue or Red is fine. If you want to ever rehydro the tank i wouldn't recommend Red.

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      • dyst0pia
        AKA Homeboy
        • Nov 2003
        • 263

        #4
        The Tech at Centerflag recommended I use Green loctite on my reg to connect it to the tank....I was just like "thats a negative."

        I use red for everything.

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        • Kevmaster
          Owners Group Div: Director
          • Oct 2001
          • 5475

          #5
          Originally posted by ASDadam
          If you plan on taking the pin valve off again no Loctite is fine. If not, Blue or Red is fine. If you want to ever rehydro the tank i wouldn't recommend Red.

          what??

          no!

          coming straight from the inudstry leaders in this, use RED LOCTITE (High Strength) on the bottom three threads. DO NOT put it above the release hole on the pin valve. Reason being if it unscrews while its gassed, then the air will burst out when it gets there, rather than spiraling off and killing someone

          please have valid saftey information before you post it...

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          • sneakyhacker420
            AO's Uber Green Guru
            • Aug 2002
            • 1247

            #6
            use red loc tite and do what kevmaster said


            edit: BTW, i owe my life to that relase hole on my HPA tank... the reg got crossthreaded into my ASA and i started uncsrewing the cylinder off the reg... all of a sudden *WOOSH!* this huge stream of 4500 psi air came blowing into my face... rather than a 88ci tank being implanted in my mouth
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            • Beemer
              I could tell you but then.

              • Oct 2003
              • 3250

              #7
              is that all

              Originally posted by Kevmaster



              what??

              no!

              coming straight from the inudstry leaders in this, use RED LOCTITE (High Strength) on the bottom three threads. DO NOT put it above the release hole on the pin valve. Reason being if it unscrews while its gassed, then the air will burst out when it gets there, rather than spiraling off and killing someone

              please have valid saftey information before you post it...


              Umm.....Isnt there a Torque Spec on that to?

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              • sneakyhacker420
                AO's Uber Green Guru
                • Aug 2002
                • 1247

                #8
                just torque it down as much as you can with a strap wrench and crecent wrench... CO2 is under a max. pressure of about 1200 psi, so theres no major worry about torquing it down like on a HPA tank
                Proud Member Of The AO Cesspool Since 08-24-2002

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                • Beemer
                  I could tell you but then.

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 3250

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sneakyhacker420
                  use red loc tite and do what kevmaster said


                  edit: BTW, i owe my life to that relase hole on my HPA tank... the reg got crossthreaded into my ASA and i started uncsrewing the cylinder off the reg... all of a sudden *WOOSH!* this huge stream of 4500 psi air came blowing into my face... rather than a 88ci tank being implanted in my mouth
                  Wrong thats why this happened

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                  • Kevmaster
                    Owners Group Div: Director
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 5475

                    #10
                    Re: is that all

                    Originally posted by Beemer
                    Umm.....Isnt there a Torque Spec on that to?
                    yes...there is...25 ft/lbs is the correct amount, I think...but who has a torque wrench? Tighten it with a crescent wrench and a strap wrench and the loc-tite will do the job.

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                    • Kevmaster
                      Owners Group Div: Director
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 5475

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beemer
                      Wrong thats why this happened
                      no. Had there been loctite above the hole, it likely would have stayed air tight much longer (after the oring seal around the bottom of the neck on the internal tank threads had been lost) and it would have been closer to firing out.....VERY FAST

                      use red loctite...put it on the bottom 2-3 threads on your reg....let it sit 24 hours...you're set

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                      • dinger
                        I AM THE BIG DINGER!!
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1267

                        #12
                        put loc tite on the valve pin

                        and who the hell uses loc tite on their threads?!?!?
                        i always use elmers glue :o






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                        • Beemer
                          I could tell you but then.

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3250

                          #13
                          Re: Re: is that all

                          Originally posted by Kevmaster


                          yes...there is...25 ft/lbs is the correct amount, I think...but who has a torque wrench? Tighten it with a crescent wrench and a strap wrench and the loc-tite will do the job.
                          no. Had there been loctite above the hole, it likely would have stayed air tight much longer (after the oring seal around the bottom of the neck on the internal tank threads had been lost) and it would have been closer to firing out.....VERY FAST

                          use red loctite...put it on the bottom 2-3 threads on your reg....let it sit 24 hours...you're set

                          Ya I know about loctite. My POINT is it should still be Torqued. Whats the torque spec on HPA? If its torqued to spec theres less of a chance of the tank unscrewing off the reg or valve. If your gonna do it do it RIGHT and safe

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                          • Kevmaster
                            Owners Group Div: Director
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5475

                            #14
                            i think the spec on N2 is 35ft/lbs....don't quote me though...I don't have it in my notes

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