Stiffi Switch

[mark_426]

spaceman, where have you shot it? what marker? what paint? give me (us, if anyone is watching this), all the details.


And, they aren't biased (knocking the item), they're just stating opinions based on the design and description of it, as well as comparing it to the other products currently out.

[Jack & Coke]

Interesting idea...

kinda like the Hammerhead:



and

OTP barrel (On Target Products)



I wonder if there's any velocity loss since the control bore is so short... this would make the barrel less efficient.

I think a cool test would be:

A. 12" lapco Bigshot (~12" control bore)

vs

B. 12" DYE Ultralight (~6" control bore)

vs.

C. 12" Stiffi (~2" control bore)

All with the same control bore size.

Test and compare muzzle velocities... that would be interesting

[Spaceman613]

It was on the 04 / J2.

I didnt get to do a complete review of it, but for the limited time i used it, it shot great. Paint was crappy diablo blaze.

[-=Squid=-]

Well, I always loved the stiffi, and will UNDOUBTEDLY be buying this. GREAT price compared to the regular stiffi to. Anybody wanna buy a 14" cocker threaded stiffi?

[sslecyk03]

how much?

[Mindflux]

209 from site mfg + shipping.

Bleh.

No spank you

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Mindflux
209 from site mfg + shipping.

Bleh.

No spank you

But thats MSRP... it will be much lower than that from places like pbgear.

[sslecyk03]

are these kits out yet and how much for the 14 incher squid?

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
But thats MSRP... it will be much lower than that from places like pbgear.

Yeah, it's MSRP. we'll see once someone has them for sale.

[felony]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
I wonder if there's any velocity loss since the control bore is so short... this would make the barrel less efficient.

good question.


would also be interested in how that short of a control bore effects accuracy in comparison to something larger..

hmm

[mark_426]

"So as far as our guns are concerned, the best efficiency would be had with an 8-10" effective length barrel. Since two piece ported barrels with an effective length of about 5-6" are the rage right now you hear a lot of complaints about gas efficiency. Under some circumstances there is a good reason to use a short effective length barrel. Short barrels cut off the acceleration abruptly by venting and this has the effect of tightening up the shot to shot velocity variation. If you need this at the expense of efficiency then go ahead. Tighter velocity control usually translates into some improvement in accuracy due to better consistency."

-AGD here

So, Tom is saying less control bore=tighter shot to shot variation, some improvement in accuracy because or more consistancy, but it would be less efficent.

Interesting, this means a scepter is more effiecent but less accurate, and a OTB/Hammerhead/Switch would all be more accurate.

Anyone?

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by sslecyk03
are these kits out yet and how much for the 14 incher squid?

something like 90 when I sell it.

[845]

I think the theory behind the barrels like the hammerhead is that they performed test and it is "proven" that that small little nub of an adapter is all you need to effect accuracy.

[FallNAngel]

Originally posted by mark_426

-AGD here

So, Tom is saying less control bore=tighter shot to shot variation, some improvement in accuracy because or more consistancy, but it would be less efficent.

Interesting, this means a scepter is more effiecent but less accurate, and a OTB/Hammerhead/Switch would all be more accurate.

Anyone?

OK, but how much difference in accuracy are we talking though and how much efficiency? I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I'd just rather see a quantifiable difference. As is now, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

[mark_426]

Originally posted by FallNAngel


OK, but how much difference in accuracy are we talking though and how much efficiency? I'm not saying there isn't a difference, I'd just rather see a quantifiable difference. As is now, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

I think it'd really require someone to test them out

If I had the money for all the paint/air/barrels, I'd do it. I don't, I'll admit that, but I might email hammerhead and see if I can leave a deposit and have a Fin sent here, and or see if site could do the same thing.