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  • MayAMonkeyBeYourPinata
    Another One Bites The Dust
    • Feb 2003
    • 2246

    #16
    That cost is still cheaper then, then legal fees, so I dont see why someone is attempting this.
    Love Will Tear Us Apart

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    • spantol
      Turgid Member
      • Sep 2002
      • 1024

      #17
      The problem is, both ICD and AKA may very well have tried this. With the relative costs being what they are, I can't imagine why they wouldn't have. With the gag orders, though, we'll never know.

      That said, I'd still contribute to a third-party effort to get one started.

      Loaded 2004 BKO For Sale

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      • Kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #18
        and im guessing that a company like SPLATT woult want to for fear of possible backlash w/i the industry. however, i would be interested in trying to donate awell

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        • vf-xx
          Henchmen Inc.
          • Nov 2001
          • 3311

          #19
          Find a patent lawyer as an impartial 3rd party.

          You may also try a reasonable law college to look into it. While they can't actually argue the case it might make an interesting project grade for someone and you'd get a bunch of research for cheap/free.
          -- Feedback--

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          • PB700
            The Game
            • Oct 2000
            • 71

            #20
            I think Have Blue found some prior art i seen it on Docs web site http://www.network54.com/Hide/Forum/...eid=1078263185
            Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip
            around the sun every year.

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            • AGD
              The man from AGD

              • Oct 2000
              • 5916

              #21
              You can't request a re-exaimination if your in court over the patent. Has to be a third party. Most of the third parties don't think they will get sued.....

              AGD
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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #22
                Originally posted by AGD
                You can't request a re-exaimination if your in court over the patent. Has to be a third party.
                Well, if that is true, are you not currently a third party?


                Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                The only Hitech Lubricant

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                • RoadDawg
                  Degeneration X is back
                  • May 2001
                  • 4023

                  #23
                  You know what would sound good. AGD the company that brought down the SP Patent. Kinda gives me butterflies in the stomach. Anyways. It'd be nice to see a 3rd party try this and see how it turns out.
                  Sorry, I'm old

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                  • Miscue
                    Super Moderator

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 7105

                    #24
                    Originally posted by RoadDawg
                    You know what would sound good. AGD the company that brought down the SP Patent. Kinda gives me butterflies in the stomach. Anyways. It'd be nice to see a 3rd party try this and see how it turns out.
                    IMO, it would be better if a non-profit group developed, independent from any manufacturer... receiving donations from paintball players/companies to be used to pay for the fees.

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                    • hitech
                      Not a shedder of vortices
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 4775

                      #25
                      Here is a continuing discussion about third party reviews of patents:

                      Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


                      Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                      Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
                      The only Hitech Lubricant

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                      • Gunga
                        Former AGD Factory Tech
                        • May 2001
                        • 1497

                        #26
                        Here's an article from the March 6, 2004 issue of the Chicago Tribune about a patent review. Gives some basic info and stats about the patent review process.



                        Patent ruling threatens award in Microsoft case

                        Chicago man won $521 million infringement award

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                        • Cristobal
                          vox clamantis mag
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 454

                          #27
                          More info on Third Party appeals and changes in Patent regulations:


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                          • 1stdeadeye
                            Still around????
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 8501

                            #28
                            Originally posted by AGD
                            You can't request a re-exaimination if your in court over the patent. Has to be a third party. Most of the third parties don't think they will get sued.....

                            AGD
                            Tom,
                            You haven't been sued yet have you? Especially now that you are dropping Electros from the line, why would they sue you?

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                            • cledford
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 1386

                              #29
                              Where did the $11,000 fee that has been tossed around come from? Is there a fee for re-examination? If so, how much is it?

                              -Calvin
                              From a poster at PB Nation:

                              ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

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