Smart Parts patent and the eMag

[fire1811]

you only have a limited time to apply for a patent and it is well past that

[hitech]

Originally posted by fire1811
you only have a limited time to apply for a patent and it is well past that

That and the fact that there was verifiable prior art.

[p8ntballin007]

well wasn't there prior art when smart parts patented electos, wasn't there the bushmaster or what ever it was then

[hitech]

Originally posted by NoFearPaintballer
When the electrical switch is closed to initiate....
Couldn't you have the electrical switch open then fire? That would be legal.... Wouldn't it?

That is a VERY interesting idea. I wonder if distinctions like that are enough. I believe Odyssey tried that with the Halo (the used a reflective beam instead of a beam break, IIRC). BE sued them anyway. It's still a great idea.

[GT]

Little rumor mill here but,
I read/chatted with someone that brought up the idea that WDP is dumping all of thier angels in fear of a suit from SP. Thus why we have seen the A4 drop in price from 1400 a few months ago to about 1k currently. I was under the impression that the A4 fired using an optical switch? IF its true that they fear SP and that there desgin is techincally different then do you honestly think they have a case if they are dumping stock?

[magmonkey]

i belive wdp already told smart parts to go pound sand a few years ago
wdp is in the uk and a us patent has no bearing as far as i know

[NoFearPaintballer]

Heres how we all solve this......
have AGD make a "second hand" company design a gun that operates with a battery and patent the battery in a gun and sue the crap outta SP. ( show them good for nothings what it is like)

[athomas]

Hmmm... The part where it refers to "The projectile is then fired when the electrical timing circuit actuates the second electrically operated pneumatic flow distribution device to release gas from the compressed gas storage chamber into the launching mechanism. " is interesting, especially since the emag a) doesn't have a second electrically operated system and b) it doesn't use an electrical means to release gas.

To clarify, the sear trippers may have something a little different in operation that may help in their case against the patent. Nothing electrical specifically controls the release of gas. The only electrical interaction is for the purpose of starting the mechanical cycle of the gun.

I also like the idea of using an open switch to start the cycle. It might be different enough.

[Enigma4you]

I know im stupid but?

My question has always been this, The E-Mag X-Mag and Kingmans line of electroes except the EM1 and countless other syder clones all fire with an eletric seliniod hitting a sear or inthe case of mags the on/off.I thought the the smart parts patent only covered the pneumatic/electric seliniod where it controls the flow of the air, not the actual firing of the marker. Is this not the two steps that they refer to in the patent? In this case then any electro sear tripper including the mags would not be protected inthe patent. Or am I wrong? Please explain this to me