"Mythbusting" in paintball. What's your "favorite" one?

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Cockers are more accurate than gun X. It isnt really closed vs. open but this comes up so often and the noobs must know the truth.

Also do a hopper test to see if the manufacturers are telling the truth. The warpig one is somewhat old and out dated. Just a thought.


Andrew

[Mango]

Re: "Mythbusting" in paintball. What's your "favorite" one?

Originally posted by Tyger
I don't know what a "Dino" really does, ok?


-Tyger

You mean a "Dyno," as in, a Dynamometer? Those are for testing things with wheels or engines, not paintball guns. http://www.pwrtst.com/

[StickFigurSicide]

A low pressure gun will get 43,000 shots off of one 47/3000 HPA tank. And never chop. And shoot farther. And get more breaks on your target. And make you a better player. And get you a girlfriend. That doesn't mind kinky sex. Involving a paintball gun. And a battle swab.

Damn! i think im going to convert my mag to low pressure!



*sigh*

[Wes Janson]

But AGD did make a nailgun back in the day... It's called the FN303.


Along the lines of what's been said, I saw an article in either Crossfire or PB2X a month or so ago, in which the author tried to prove that barrel length affects accuracy. I believe he used an e-mag, and according to the article he tested it with the same air source, inside, at room temperature, with a chronometer. According to the findings, 12-14 inches was the optimum barrel length. Make of it what you will, but I've always heard people advocating around that size as being the best for a marker.

[gadget68]

FROZEN PAINT

Frozen paintballs.. Can you actually freeze a paintball to a hard enough point that it can be considered solid and will they shoot out of a marker? Myth or Fact? You tell me Tyger.

[chizle97]

What about this one. "Constant air will never catch on."

There are magic elves inside each automag.
DEAD WRONG!! everyone knows they are magic gnomes

[FlameboyC11]

Accuracy, but in a more complicated setup than just a bench mounted one. Measure the kick per shot, and maybe even in strings of 10 (@ 10bps). People don't have arms like vises (or at least, not most of em), so any vise mounted test in the past doesn't show too much. I'd like to see this one.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Wes Janson
But AGD did make a nailgun back in the day... It's called the FN303.


Along the lines of what's been said, I saw an article in either Crossfire or PB2X a month or so ago, in which the author tried to prove that barrel length affects accuracy. I believe he used an e-mag, and according to the article he tested it with the same air source, inside, at room temperature, with a chronometer. According to the findings, 12-14 inches was the optimum barrel length. Make of it what you will, but I've always heard people advocating around that size as being the best for a marker.

??? The FN303 is a less than lethal military gun.
It is not a nail gun. AGD has never made nailguns.

I find it ridiculous that magazines publish the "findings," of non-scientifically or engineering minded people. This is what people do when they test stuff: They get marker X, barrels Y, a chronograph, a couple cold six-packs, and they mount it somehow... all this provides the illusion that their test has legitimacy. They fart around with it and come up with the results that they want to come up with, or is agreeable to them. And their results vary from person to person. Can we say, mistakes and systematic error?

Also, they gather data haphazardly and then come up with some conclusion that you have to wonder how they arrived at. "I used a chronograph and securely mounted the marker to my keg, therefore what I say is conclusive!"

Now, those who do it right end up with the same, able-to-be-duplicated results. Same ball at 300fps regardless of how it gets there = same accuracy and distance.

[Meph]

That's true and false. Some people do "testing" to take pictures and say they tested. But indeed modify the results.

However other people, (like me) do non-biased tests. Where the results are the results, no matter the outcome. I mean to test accuracy of a marker how can you NOT do anything but mount it? You hold it... user error! You HAVE to mount it, only way it's a credible test. It removes human error and gives real results.

If you don't think mounting it stiff is the best way to test accuracy... then what is?

[Sir_Brass]

how about the myth that people with super fast electros don't shoot near as fast in ANY game as they can over the chrony?

I've heard so much bs about shooting 20 bps on the field that it makes me sick. I know that speedballers, no matter how fast their guns, shoot in and around 12 bps (+/- 3 bps maybe) ON THE FIELD during a game, where as AT THE CHRONY, they may manage to then outrun their hoppers shooting 20 bps or so.

should debunk the myth that you can run though a 12 bps rope of paint. after all, plenty of people fail when player x closes down a lane at the fastest he can (probably around 12 bps) and player y, having started his run as soon as player x shuts down the lane, runs straight into the stream. yeah, suuuure, people can run through 12 bps paint streams . .. whatever.

[Halliday]

Originally posted by Garrum
Pro team players getting into fist fights, being pricks to everybody, and cheating on the field is a better image for paintball than a group of friends having a good time in the woods.

That's a good one!

[-=Squid=-]

How come when I shoot a full hopper, if I try and shoot the last ball it chops, no matter what gun or type of vision system?

[FlameboyC11]

In fact, why not take it to the next level? Knowing AGD, they might be interested in financing a ballistics test from a *real* facility. Companies could donate one of their markers to use, and then a universal set of regs, barrels, tanks, paint, hoppers, and whatever else you could think of would be installed on the guns. From there, the guns would be shipped to a facility that measures real guns and their characteristics and the tests would be done. No more whining, no more illegitmate *most accurate* (except for the one that was), *fastest shooting*, etc.

[Brophog]

Because your force fed or agitating hopper wasn't made to shoot to the last drop. They were made to keep balls free flowing. To that end, the last few balls will get impeded by the very object used to keep them moving.

Try it with a cheap plastic hopper, or stick feed. You'll have no trouble shooting every last ball.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Brophog
Because your force fed or agitating hopper wasn't made to shoot to the last drop. They were made to keep balls free flowing. To that end, the last few balls will get impeded by the very object used to keep them moving.

Try it with a cheap plastic hopper, or stick feed. You'll have no trouble shooting every last ball.

Thats what everybody tells me, but I can take the hopper off, put 4 balls in the feed and one will chop