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  • GoblinGreen
    Gobbling Green Goop
    • Nov 2000
    • 99

    #16
    I knew I read somewhere you have to remove the Ring off the Xmag before you can re-anodize it. I have organised to get my Euro/std xmag redone and I need to get that ring off.

    If you remove the breach off an Xmag and check where the bolt tip just sticks through. I need to remove that steel ring before I can get this done. Please whats the trick cause the ring looks threaded but it aint budging. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated and sending my Xmag to tunaman is not an option.

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    • Beemer
      I could tell you but then.

      • Oct 2003
      • 3250

      #17
      this might help ya



      Peace out

      ____________

      Last edited by Beemer; 05-04-2006, 03:05 AM.

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      • GoblinGreen
        Gobbling Green Goop
        • Nov 2000
        • 99

        #18
        thanks for the quick reply. On the Xmag it kinda looks different just want to make sure we are on the same page



        If you go down to 5. Adjusting the A.C.E. (Xmag)
        check out the picture of his Xmag with the breach removed. There is a pice of metal where the bolt is removed. Is that the same ring/pin as the deadly wind link

        Cause mine on the Euro Xmag looks threaded sorta and wont budge, I think that link may apply for the Emag body but Im not sure about the Xmag body.



        Originally posted by Beemer

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        • Beemer
          I could tell you but then.

          • Oct 2003
          • 3250

          #19
          Ya same page.

          I thought it was the same on an X but I guess not. I never payed any attention. I looked at my X and it looks like it might be pressed in. I dont see a break on the clip part on my X
          or like you said its threaded.

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          • GoblinGreen
            Gobbling Green Goop
            • Nov 2000
            • 99

            #20
            This is the forum for trouble shooting your Airgun Designs products, including the Automag, RT, E-Mag, and WarpFeed. Also a great place to ask technical questions about non AGD products. An Airsmith's homeroom!


            I think this post sums it all up! Im pretty stuffed re-anodizing my Euro Xmag.

            Think its time to put it back together and leave it as the Ugly Silver Xmag which it is!
            hmmmm dallara/karta body hmmmmmm thats an option

            thanks again Beemer

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            • Loguzzzzzz
              Practice Target

              • Sep 2004
              • 2121

              #21
              Send the body to either Tunaman or AGD. The body has to be heated up to 700 degrees and then the insert can be screwed out. My guess is that it will also have to be heated to re-install the insert.

              I am planning to have my X mag body re-annno'd so I did a little research a while ago. I don't know what Tunaman will charge but he is very fair and reasonable, I can't see it costing very much at all. He only charged me $75 to soldier two new switches on my emag board and flash v3.2 on it. I believe that also included the return shipping. Drop him an email at [email protected]. He will help you out.

              ......You know you want one!!

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              • CoolHand
                Logic Industries LLC
                • Jan 2003
                • 3769

                #22
                A+ Ano can remove the ring, ano the body, and reinstall it without buggering up the marker.

                I've had two markers done by them, and they both came back in wonderful shape.

                BTW, it is pressed/screwed into place and staked with a setscrew. You're not getting it out without resorting to drastic measures.
                Last edited by CoolHand; 05-08-2006, 09:40 AM.
                Ryan Shanks
                Logic Industries LLC

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                • GoblinGreen
                  Gobbling Green Goop
                  • Nov 2000
                  • 99

                  #23
                  Im not a fan of sending my markers overseas for anything. thanks though.

                  Im thinking along the lines of just getting the marker half anodised so I will get the front of the marker, breach, battery and half the trigger guard in black, then leave the back half in silver.

                  Glad I didnt just send it in to get anodized I would have really balls up the body.

                  Thanks all for the info

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                  • CoolHand
                    Logic Industries LLC
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3769

                    #24
                    Ah, didn't see you were from South Africa.

                    Yeah, you're pretty much screwed then.

                    Sorry.
                    Ryan Shanks
                    Logic Industries LLC

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                    • MicroMiniMe
                      Easy Like Sunday Morning
                      • May 2003
                      • 1213

                      #25
                      Coolhand, is the steel washer the same as the ULE/Slugs use for the X/Euro? Could he have it anodized with it in there and let the acid bath eat the ring up and just replace it after the ano is done from the AGD store?

                      CNC Emag
                      Featherlight Viking

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                      • CoolHand
                        Logic Industries LLC
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 3769

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MicroMiniMe
                        Coolhand, is the steel washer the same as the ULE/Slugs use for the X/Euro? Could he have it anodized with it in there and let the acid bath eat the ring up and just replace it after the ano is done from the AGD store?
                        Nope, it's a totally different kind of ring, more like a bottle cap shape.

                        if you anodize it out, it might bugger up the body too, you never know.

                        Didn't I do a MicroMag for you that had the ring dissolved out of it? (stupid anodizers ).

                        If you will recall, that one we got lucky on and it didn't hurt the body, but in talking with Jay while he fixed it, it very well could have.

                        i've anodized taps and drill bits out of parts before, and sometimes the part comes out unscathed, sans drill bit, but sometimes it comes out with some drill bit left, and a jagged doughnut shaped hole around it, meaning that some alum and some steel had been removed.

                        It's a risky deal. Depends on how badly you want a new ano job, I guess.

                        And no, you cannot just anodize half the body. It's an all or nothing kind of thing.
                        Ryan Shanks
                        Logic Industries LLC

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                        • A-Tach-One
                          I'm done!!!!

                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2204

                          #27
                          GoblinGreen, actually the ring in the XMag body is NOT pressed in, it is threaded as Loguzzzzzz stated. And the set screw on the underside of the body is to prevent the ring from unthreading itself. I own Havoc's XMag now and noticed the ring backed itself out 2 1/2 turns upon arrival. I can take a pic of of the threads if you like. Personally I wouldn't tork on it, I would send it to someone who knows how to remove these babies without damage. Oh, just so you know I also have a Euro XMag and it too has a threaded body ring.

                          Here is a pic of the threading. I partially unscrewed the ring for you to see. Normally that body bushing should sit flush with the body.

                          Last edited by A-Tach-One; 05-05-2006, 12:29 PM. Reason: Insert pic

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                          • Beemer
                            I could tell you but then.

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3250

                            #28
                            Stupid question. The threaded piece still has to come out dont it?

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                            • A-Tach-One
                              I'm done!!!!

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2204

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Beemer
                              Stupid question. The threaded piece still has to come out dont it?
                              For anno? Yes, that is what needs to come out before anno.

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                              • Beemer
                                I could tell you but then.

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3250

                                #30
                                Then that is the piece that is pressed in correct?

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