Evil Omen...anyone have an opinion

[member#10,261]

when the "flap" has pushed the ball into the chamber is there enough room behind it for another ball to fit? Prob not or else it would not work, but I guess what I am asking is if the "flap" touches the next ball in the stack as it (the flap) moves back to ready position (away from chamber)

also, if the flap is in ready position and you tilt the omen to the left (left side on ground) can the ball roll into the chamber?

[member#10,261]

guys...come on...don't bicker

I wanted to hear H's opinion, weather it was helpfull or not, intelegent or not, and wether he has used it or not.

the Vert feed thing was my poor attempt at a joke

[member#10,261]

P.S.

That is what a sig is for

[tyrion2323]

It works like this. The balls sit in the feed tube, and one is in the Cam chamber. When that ball gets pushed into the cam chamber, one flap stays back to hold the other balls up in the feed tube. Then, once the cam resets itself, the next ball falls into the cam chamber.

Lemme try to get a video of it...

Jacob

[tyrion2323]

Videos - server will be up in a second, I hope:

https://www.elementpaintball.us/Gallery/breechfrnt.MPG

https://www.elementpaintball.us/Gallery/Loading.MPG

https://www.elementpaintball.us/Gallery/Camfeed2.MPG

[Lethargic]

My local shop owner/teammate has on eon the wall right now, and I get to mess around with it a fair bit. I really do like the Omen. At the very least it is original. The cam feed looks like it would work quite nicely, and doesn't look as if it would let the marker chop. HOWEVER, I've never seen the gun shoot anything besides air, so what do I know? I personally don't care for the back-block type back piece, because i tend to chip the living crap out of my lenses each and every time I shoot the thing. In therms of the trigger, I am tempted to rnk this one somewhere near the top. I can sweetspot all over it, and you can rake it over the little hump in the middle.

I say go with one, but definately shoot before you buy.

[tyrion2323]

I'm going to the field on saturday - i'll try to get a video of that!

Jacob

[member#10,261]

Jacob-thanks for all you help, in just this short time I have decided I am going to get my hands on one of these. I guess a few of my guns are up for sale now

I have to go now, its 12:50 and I have a psych exam on the marrow!

I will def shoot before I buy If I ever get the chance.

[Lee]

b2k3 rips out of the box. w/ pds chopping is a non issue.

i personally don't trust pmi/evil products. too many bad experiences.

[Mateo]

Haven't played paintball for a few months, but I did happen to mess around with the first Omens alot, maybe things have changed so don't take my opinion into account too seriously.

Evil's Omen is a pretty interesting gun. It has the same blowback valve found in most stacked tube Spyders and so forth but instead of directly connecting the hammer and bolt the made the hammer basically in two rings with a recess to catch the bolt. Kinda difficult to explain but it is considered closed bolt(which by the way has no advantages at all compared to open so don't say that it is one ) Personally I hate the Cam system. More parts=More things to go wrong. My experience with the Cam wasn't all that great. I chopped 10 balls out of a 1000, about the same I get with a Spyder. You can't use Halos on it, only Revolutions or it will mess up the feeding. I don't like how the feedtube is off the the right side, reminds me of old standard mags. But I do give credit for trying to not go the vertical with eyes route that most electrical guns are moving towards. The trigger is ok, its a bit heavier than a spyder, and PMI/Evil customer service is quite nice.

For the money I say it should be priced around $250-300, your just buying the Evil name so they jacked up the price quite a bit. They slapped on a cam and different internals into a electro framed spyder and expect you to pay $300 more? Lunacy, madness, and ripping you off. For $450, I would look into getting a used ULE-Xvalved Mag, they go for that price on the trade forums. At least then you will never have to worry about chopping, its a smaller profile, pretty darn light, and you keep within the Automag family or a Bushmaster with PDS, those are quite nice.

[rkjunior303]

I've been looking through markers all winter deciding what middle range electro to buy and I decided on the Omen myself.... I would suggest taking a read through the "Evil" forum on PBNation.. They have -PHENOMENAL- customer service. The Cam feed will not chop, if the recock pressure is set correctly -- worst case, you'll get barrel breaks if it's not... As for the gun itself, I have heard nothing but good reviews... Play with the gun, get used to it, then upgrade to the pdp chip from Chris @ pdp. It's a $50 upgrade which you WILL have to send him your trigger frame. Nice thing is, the installation of the chip -will not- void your warranty with Evil. The board is capped at 25bps, with adjustments to bounce available... The marker itself, there really aren't any upgrades yet.. The detonator regulator that comes with the gun works great (no need to upgrade). If you buy a used one, make sure you get the updated model with the magnesium (black) trigger along with the red back block with the nylon screws.. This keeps the block from twisting and potentially jamming the recock.. Aside from that, you may want to consider a new feed neck (imp/b2k threaded) such as the Check-it low rise... I am picking one up when I get back from my trip to Miami...

on a side note, there are some custom people working on stuff such as a blade trigger and a back block modification to make it flush cocking.

[rkjunior303]

oh, and the gun runs best on something like an egg w/ zboard.. you don't want to use a halo on one of these.

[member#10,261]

Originally posted by Lee
b2k3 rips out of the box. w/ pds chopping is a non issue.

i personally don't trust pmi/evil products. too many bad experiences.

how much would a b2k3 w/pds cost?

I have only had good expierence with pmi and evil.

[UltimatePaintballer]

it looks like a nice gun, i was going to get one. but every time i go into my local fields proshop, theres an omen or two getting fixed. its like more omens then cockers! but if i had extra money i would buy one for the hell of it.

[bunkermaster10]

The one I used ripped pretty decent. But it was chopping crazy balls.....