Tournament rules need fixing

[Patron God of Pirates]

The original purpose of not allowing full auto was to protect players from potential mask removing streams of paint. At the time, full auto was 11-13 bps. Now we have electros in semi mode pushing 20bps!

So what is the point of the no full auto rule?

It seems to me there are two options; Cap the allowed bps, or anything goes.

Personally I'd prefer to see a cap at 11-13 bps. I think amount of paint in the air at todays fields takes away from the game, even slowing it down.

On the other hand, if you're not going to cap the bps, then there is no need for a 1 pull 1 shot rule.

What do you folks think?

[Crazy]

i think your complaining because you either:
1)can't shoot that fast
2)can't afford to shoot paint that fast

[Patron God of Pirates]

Actually I make pretty good money, shoot an E-Mag and do it fast enough to get checked for bounce on a regular basis.

There are those here who can vouch for me, but that is irrelevant.

The point is that at the ROF people are getting in semi mode, the rule is obsolite

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates

The point is that at the ROF people are getting in semi mode, the rule is obsolite

People aren't shooting that fast.It's the rule for a legal marker/trigger set up that need adjusting.

[Wc Keep]

Originally posted by Crazy
i think your complaining because you either:
1)can't shoot that fast
2)can't afford to shoot paint that fast

this is a very poor comment to make and it should be erased.

pgop makes a very good point. the amount of bounce that guns are getting now-a-days is just like if it were in full auto. and many people out there do not know self control so that means that once a player is hit they still can get hit by 10+ balls,

[SlartyBartFast]

Well, I already started commenting the current rules, such as they are, and few showed interest.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124925

I started re-writing them and will make my version avaialble for critique. I had hoped discussion would allow me to gather more player input first though...

[FreakBaller12]

that's a very good point on bounce.
But i think FA is illegal for safety purposes, if you drop the gun it's going to fire your whole hopper as opposed to dropping a semi and it shooting one. ALthought boucne is becoming so bad there is a smaller and smaller difference every year, every month for that matter almost.


these are my own thoughts but:

i think somethign drastic is going to happen, something's gotta give with these WAS boards, deboucne settings and FA, something is gonna happen, and in a way it's going to define what paintball will become, wether NPPL PSP or a company for that matter makes the first huge stand on trigger bounce.

[50 cal]

Some players have trouble enough getting off the trigger fast enough to even consider allowing full auto. Someone is going to get a lens smashed by some trigger happy jerk.

Someone will still say "Can't stand the heat, get out of the game."

[Torbo]

guys.....theres been just about a million threads that discuss nearly the same thing.....

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123210&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122309&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122280&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122272&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121204&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117140&highlight=bps

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115962&highlight=bps

theres probably more.......what is it with AO and complaining about BPS?

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Torbo
theres probably more.......what is it with AO and complaining about BPS?

... I once got temp banned for answering that question.

[Torbo]

which interests me....what is the anwser....i can think up alot of reasons, and of course no offense to AO. I can imagine what you said too........

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Torbo
which interests me....what is the anwser....i can think up alot of reasons, and of course no offense to AO. I can imagine what you said too........

The fact that I dont think mags were meant to be electro, and I just dont think they measure up to other guns like timmies and vikings as far as speed. Obviously, since this is a primarily mag forum, this statement upsets a lot of people. They just dont seem to get I like emags just fine, and would gladly shoot one, and would rather interpret it like im bashing mags.

[Torbo]

agreed, same with e-cockers. I mean, ill be shooting one at skyball, and i like them, but thats not what theyre meant for.

anyway back to the topic.....bps isnt the problem really, people purposely overshooting others is. Although, that doesnt seem to be that horrible outside of x-ball anyway.

[Wc Keep]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
The fact that I dont think mags were meant to be electro, and I just dont think they measure up to other guns like timmies and vikings as far as speed. Obviously, since this is a primarily mag forum, this statement upsets a lot of people. They just dont seem to get I like emags just fine, and would gladly shoot one, and would rather interpret it like im bashing mags.

i dont know what you are talking about. the emags that have the 4.0 software i think are shooting faster than the timmys with was. you can bash my mags all you want but i know that they shoot fast enough to get the eliminations i need. but this isnt the issue being brought up in this thread.

the issue is: what is the difference between a gun bouncing at 16 bps and a gun shooting f/a at 16 bps?

[trains are bad]

if you drop the gun it's going to fire your whole hopper as opposed to dropping a semi and it shooting one.

Please....that is a very ignorant statement. Realize that full auto could have a trigger approaching a pound of trigger weight no problem.

what is the difference between a gun bouncing at 16 bps and a gun shooting f/a at 16 bps?

the full auto one is safer and more controllable.


I do play on F/A, there's basically no difference.