E-mag. Is mech option important to you?

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Meph

Not exactly. It's much much more than just that switch that adds to the cost. The battery is a big cost to the E-mag. The magnetic-noid is about... $40 or so I think for AGD.

He's talking about removing the "mechanical" portion. That's only the trigger rod.

Making the Emag cheaper is a different story but even still the only major difference in cost is the Battery.If you use a ULT,smaller 'niod and smaller battery you might save $100 or so off retail cost and give up some long term reliability,if $100 is that important to you.

[purplemag]

I will say that the mech mode is sometimes necessary with the valve being designed like it is, to allow for trouble shooting, and checking your velocity. It is the only way you can check where a leak is, either up front or in back, by blocking the flow of air with the on/off. Also, read the proper chronograph procedure, for that you have to have mech mode. Thoughts...?

[Meph]

Sure.


I can manually operate the sear with a Hyperframe. And that has no mech mode.

Originally posted by RRfireblade
If you use a ULT,smaller 'niod and smaller battery you might save $100 or so

Possibly, but I would actually bet based on some of my costs and how much those e-frames can be made for when produced in a higher volume.... I'd bet AGD could shave quite a bit more than just $100 off the price.

[coolcatpete]

I am really bad at charging my battery and so I use mine all the time.
Pete

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Meph
I would actually bet based on some of my costs and how much those e-frames can be made for when produced in a higher volume.... I'd bet AGD could shave quite a bit more than just $100 off the price.

I know you didn't just use AGD in the example.

[Meph]

Nah, tom doesn't need to shave. Keep the soup strainer. I'm talking about AGD's cost themselves + what they would then in turn distribute down for a lower dealer cost.

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Originally posted by coolcatpete
I am really bad at charging my battery and so I use mine all the time.
Pete

I thought that I was the only one!

Personally, I'd love to keep the mechanical option. Guys like myself forget to charge their batteries the night before.

Jim

[Halliday]

I had my battery die one game. The power must have dipped enough that it would not work in E mode but ran fine in Hybrid. I played that way the rest of the day and recharged the battery later.

Now it was just a RecBall game but the feature helped me that one time. I can see if I played more tournies it might be even more handy.

[Meph]

That's bringing up a good point. Subconsiously do people with E-mags not hound themselves to recharge their battery, or to make sure they have fresh batteries, BECAUSE they know in the back of their mind "Well if it fails, I got the mechanical mode." The owners might not necessarily think it, but it's there. Possibly.

I know that with my Halo and Hyperframe, I don't care if I replaced them batts the previous day of play. Next day of play I ALWAYS have spare batteries. I even check the voltage left with my multimeter at times. Because I know I don't have mechanical mode, or just because I indeed am used to electronics all together so I know to be precautious? Beats me.

But with e-mag owners, since that mech option is there, maybe these people do have a tendency to overlook the battery issue.

[RRfireblade]

Well,I will say that I've NOT charged it 'cause I figured it's just rec ball and mech might be fun for a day.

[50 cal]

I don't see where removing the M mode would save any $$$. It still fires in the same manner as E mode.
We play around here sometimes without any E guns. All I do is remove the battery and flip it to M and I still have my same set up. That's why I like my E mag so much.

[Meph]

Originally posted by 50 cal
I don't see where removing the M mode would save any $$$.

Look up to about the middle, I have a post explaining how.

[50 cal]

You custom built your gun for X amount. Most companies build their product and that's it. No 100 other options that ruin a company. Sure AGD could do that, but then you would have 100 different options of guns for just a small amount players. It would be business suicide for a company to do that.
There are Rogue Factor and all the others that would probably do what you are suggesting. But they are small independent guys that can do the custom stuff.
You think the wait on Xmags is bad, try doing all the option stuff for production guns.
I work for a company that builds .50 cal rifles. If we tried the stuff as production that customers call in for, we would't get their rifles to them in a years time. You have to plan production schedules. Tie up machine time for small lots of parts. It would be a logistical nightmare.

I'm sure AGD could do what you ask. But would it be beneficial? Probably not.

[UltimatePaintballer]

they mech option i think is a must for an emag or x. it comes in handy when you need it. my friend burnt out his battery and never got one for a long time so he always had to use the mech mode. if there wasn't one, he wouldn't have been able to use it!

[sneakyhacker420]

with ULT and a hyperframe, AGD would love to design a smaller frame, instead of the large e-mag one, but right now the SP patent issue is stopping them from making any progress reguarding electronics besides the software