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[Mindflux]

Originally posted by SprayingMango


Ok then seriously, whose fault is that?! They did thier best to make sure everyone got games in. If you just stood there and didn't say anything then you have no one to blame but yourself for letting it happen.

I guess if you want to put it like that yeah it's all my fault.

Perhaps there should have been fair rotations, I'm not one to force my way into a game. Again, I saw two other teammates play very little sunday too, and if they walked into the group to be the 5 out on the field, i wasn't gonna go "hey wait a sec".. cuz they were in the same boat.

So, if you look at it.. I was trying to let the other people play more too, otherwise you'd be hearing them gripe too. Don't get me wrong, meeting everyone was fantastic, and everyone was nice and fun to chat with (those I did chat with). But There should have been Team 2 Group A and Group B period, no substitutions where Group A people FELT a need to cut someone from group B out because 'we needed that point'.

This is not just about me.. there were others on my team equally as frustrated. Wether or not they speak out, I'm speaking for them too.


Are you saying I should have been more ascertive and pulled other people off the team like said member?

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by Fuji
I hope you're not talking about me. I think I pulled someone off in order to rebalance the team once. And that was due to the fact that we had no snake players. ( I think I subbed in SkyBoySurfer )

As far as playing goes, I played a fair amount on day one and a fair amount of the first half of day two. But, I played about 2-3 games tops in the second half of day two. In fact, I did quite a bit of coaching on both days. You can even ask GTRSI, I bought an extra case in the second half and never got to shoot it.

I do remember Curtis and Clare asking if anyone needed more playing time. *sigh* Well, I guess next time just step up and let people know what's going on. Perhaps let the person who was hogging time know that they need to let others play.

( OT - Clare, Ed, Miscue the CD's are enroute expect 2-4 days for delivery. Clare, if you're wondering what the other "thing" in the package is for, give it to Curtis and ask him why I am sending him one of those. )

It wasn't you Fuji.

It wasn't Clare or Curtis either.

Whatever, I guess not important. Apparently being passive about it is my fault.... as someone is blaming me for it.

I don't step on peoples toes.

[Dayspring]

Standing up for yourself is not stepping on toes. If you felt you were not being rotated in to the game in a manner that suited you, speak up.

Technically, it wasn't your fault b/c you weren't the person or persons that were playing more often. However, you're a big boy and can speak your mind. your lack of action is your fault. The lack of play is the consequence of both actions.

[GoatBoy]

Originally posted by SprayingMango


Ok then seriously, whose fault is that?! They did thier best to make sure everyone got games in. If you just stood there and didn't say anything then you have no one to blame but yourself for letting it happen.

It's a situation that most A-teamers would not understand, or at least recognize.

I know Clare and Curtis were vaguely aware of what was going on. This wasn't their fault, and it wasn't isolated to Team 2 either. I know more people noticed it without saying it, so it's not just "Mindflux's own fault".

If you really are interested, you can PM me.




Otherwise, thanks to all involved in organizing the event. I'd credit you guys with a 'win' on this one.

[Havoc_online]

Ryan, I played plenty. Since I realized I was getting so much game time, I kept asking and asking if anyone wanted my spot(As Clare did too), If player x pulled you off, you should of just asked Clare or myself if you could take our spot like we were offering, we would have been more than happy to let you on the line.

It has little to do with player X, since we were offering openly and almost never got responses, it's no one's fault but the ppl who didnt speak up. You(or anyone else on the team) wouldnt of been getting in the way or stepping on our toes, you would have been playing since we openly offered our spots constantly.

If something is wrong at an event, or you think things could be going differently, you have to tell Clare or myself, we cant do anything about it now, but we would have helped you then.

I'm sorry that the event ended sour for you. You DO know ME and you DO speak to ME. Please, next time tell me whats on your mind in private and I'll make sure you get the good treatment.

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by Dayspring
Standing up for yourself is not stepping on toes. If you felt you were not being rotated in to the game in a manner that suited you, speak up.

Technically, it wasn't your fault b/c you weren't the person or persons that were playing more often. However, you're a big boy and can speak your mind. your lack of action is your fault. The lack of play is the consequence of both actions.

Well, It's not like I wanted to play in all of the games, that's silly. 3 more games would have probably sufficed, 1/3 of our total games played. But then again, if I had been on a REAL rotation, I would have had atleast half of the 21 games played, so we'll call that 10.

I'm not being unrealistic, atleast I don't think.

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by Havoc_online
Ryan, I played plenty. Since I realized I was getting so much game time, I kept asking and asking if anyone wanted my spot(As Clare did too), If player x pulled you off, you should of just asked Clare or myself if you could take our spot like we were offering, we would have been more than happy to let you on the line.

It has little to do with player X, since we were offering openly and almost never got responses, it's no one's fault but the ppl who didnt speak up. You(or anyone else on the team) wouldnt of been getting in the way or stepping on our toes, you would have been playing since we openly offered our spots constantly.

If something is wrong at an event, or you think things could be going differently, you have to tell Clare or myself, we cant do anything about it now, but we would have helped you then.

I'm sorry that the event ended sour for you. You DO know ME and you DO speak to ME. Please, next time tell me whats on your mind in private and I'll make sure you get the good treatment.

You know what though... I wasn't really peeved that day. It was when I got back here and posted my post 4 PAGES ago about the unorthodox rotation, and then people PM'd me to say "yeah that WAS bunk it happened to a few other Team 2 players". All of them on the "B" rotation (which by the way I was never officially deemed part of any rotation).

Just so people know, I'm not ANGRY or pissed at ANYONE, I'm just trying to make NEXT YEAR's event better!

It's all good people, it's just a game.. It's a game I enjoy and you all enjoy immensely. Players shouldn't be pulled (i saw a few pulls, and was pulled myself once on saturday). Unless the player says "i cant go, not ready" or "i'm too tired to get another one in let me sit out 10".. they should go out! The A and B rotation, IMO should be enforced unless the player in the rotation cannot play and needs to be subbed.

Maybe I'm wrong.. maybe the "all stars" should play more, like Shaq or Kobe. They're in the games longer than anyone else..

It's all good, just letting people know *I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE HAVING THE PROBLEM* :)

[Muzikman]

Just one more reason I quit playing tournaments...even pickup teams can't agree. On Sunday when I was just walking around and hanging out I did notice that the one team was taking things WAY more serious than the other. I thought this was kinda odd as it was for fun (or was it?), but then again once in tournament mode, it's hard to get people to relax.

[Clare]

Well, as Curtis said, we can't do anything about it now. You can take this to pm's with the person who is at fault, though. Crowding the thread with the same thing over and over isn't going to solve anything. We're sorry that this happened but honestly we couldn't keep track (and can't read minds) of who got what playing time, so we just asked time and again and no one said anything. Next time, please don't hesitate to come up to one of us with any problems that you have and we'll see to it that it gets solved.

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
Well, as Curtis said, we can't do anything about it now. You can take this to pm's with the person who is at fault, though. Crowding the thread with the same thing over and over isn't going to solve anything. We're sorry that this happened but honestly we couldn't keep track (and can't read minds) of who got what playing time, so we just asked time and again and no one said anything. Next time, please don't hesitate to come up to one of us with any problems that you have and we'll see to it that it gets solved.

I'm trying to get my point across to people but I keep getting blamed for being passive.

Again, if I had said something and got put in more someone else who didn't play when I did play would be speaking up. I suppose I was the gopher this time around.

I'm done with this topic, people are pmming me to apologize, others are pmming me to tell me i'm a complete asshat. I went out to have fun over the weekend, it worked out pretty well.


Oh, apparently I'm hijacking the thread now.

Again, I'm done with this topic.

[kenndogg]

Guess I didn't miss much by not attending...

[nicad]

Kennedy-
actually, you did.
Iv seen how you play and I think you would have LOVED Xball.. I know I did.. :)

out!

[Mindflux]

Originally posted by kenndogg
Guess I didn't miss much by not attending...

No, you definately missed a fun event.

It was a blast for sure, just more of a blast with more game time

[Mango]

OK, LETS GET THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK!!

Less whine more pictures!


Simon!



Me!

[Miscue]

Originally posted by Mindflux


No, neither of you did. That's right. It was someone else which I'm not going to name because anyone on team 2 will already know.

I'm pretty soft spoken in person until I know everyone, and I didn't even know everyones name on the team. I knew Curtis, Clare and vf-xx (Frank I believe). By name, that's it. If I don't know you well enough, I won't speak to you. That's just my nature. I didn't speak up because frankly I felt it wouldn't have mattered.


**Edit: Saturday's games were fine, I got in enough. It was Sunday when everone was in kill kill kill mode. We had 21 games that day, I played 4.

Curtis asked the team a half dozen times if everyone was getting enough play time and everybody was fine... maybe you weren't around or something. From my observation, nobody was hogging play time - which is very difficult to do anyway with the X-Ball format because 2 minutes between games isn't enough time to play over and over. I personally played about every 2.5 games because that was about as fast as I could handle. Getting to play was a matter of: Being the first 5 up on the field ready to go was how people ended up playing. There's no way any of us could keep track of everyone's play time, heck there were people playing on our team that I didn't even realize until later (Sorry Coffey :) ).

If you didn't understand how this was working, I apologize. But you do have a duty to speak up if you're not getting in like you would like, you can't expect us to remember who's been in and who hasn't. Well, besides this I hope you had a good time... and next TexBall... Speak Up! Get on the field quick! Hehehe. We want everyone to get in some good play time.