Mardi Gras Riot in San Luis Obispo, CA...

[tyrion2323]

My personal opinions about the matter are that the rioters deserved to get what they got. Sure, there were those who were just "going with the flow," but that's an unreasonable excuse.

Riots are destructive. They are dangerous, and they are a hazard to whoever is around them. Windows are smashed and public/private property is destroyed. All because of inebriated morons who feel that the best time to express themselves is when they're under the influence. Those people deserve what they get.

Off Center - I think the problem that I have with your analysis of the authority situation is that you're indirectly (actually not so indirectly) placing the blame on the authorities. It's certainly not the police's fault that the riot happened - they do their best to stop them. My general philosophy (and there ARE exceptions) is that people who "hate the police" only do so because they have some reason to.

It's like all of the middle-class kids around my house (In Vermont) who call the cops "Pigs." Of course, you find out that these kids have been nabbed for drunk driving or speeding - yet they blame it on the Cops. I, personally, wish that the authorities had more of a presence around problem areas. Stating that people who are usually mellow and become aggressive around Police isn't a statement about the Police - it's a statement about the pathetic nature of those "mellow people."

People who feel that, once they are inebriated, they are not responsible for their actions need to rethink themselves. People who put public and private property in danger need to be suppressed - or think of the consequences for all of the innocent citizens who had nothing to do with it! Egging a house seems funny when you do it, but I bet that if you had to go help the old lady clean up her house, you might think twice next time. It's the same with riots - setting a car on fire is NEVER acceptable. Breaking windows is absolutely ridiculous.

I will state this one more time - all generalizations HAVE EXCEPTIONS. Certainly there have been numerous cases of police brutality and racism/sexism/etc. These things happen, and I am not discounting them; however, I am emphasizing a more aggressive, personal introspection instead of pulling an Eeyore ("The world's out to get me!")

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by tyrion2323
My personal opinions about the matter are that the rioters deserved to get what they got.

Very well said Tyrion. IMO, anybody who isn't running from a riot or peacefully surrendering to police deserves every bit of personal injury they get.

If a cop is doing something wrong or you disagree with their tactics, confronting them at the time IS NOT the way to do it.

While the officer(s) is doing what you consider wrong, you do everything they say, cooperate fully and try your best to remember their name, badge number, and description. After it's over you lodge a complaint.

In the case of riots, morons think that a cop should stop doing something because a bunch of drunks and/or idiots don't agree. Sorry, but as soon as the police officer feels threatened it's their right to defend themselves and use whatever force is necessary to enforce the law and protect innocent civilians and their property.

[thei3ug]

speaking as a family member of police officers and federal agents, Friends of mine who are police officers to finish law school, get a degree in radiology... people who throw bottles filled with rocks, taunt, and harass officers are scum.

I'm sorry, but they work for crap pay, crap benefits, their families FALL APART from the stress, and risk dying every day.

Then someone starts throwing a bottle at them because they think cops have a crappy attitude?

Yah. watch your head when you get in the car.

--people wouldn't have rioted if the police weren't there--

Know what that tells me? A bunch of people with authority issues. If there are large public gatherings, EXPECT police to be there. You act like they're automotons to do some big brother duty.

They're human beings.

[oldsoldier]

Originally posted by Barfly
well wtf do the police expect when they shutdown a couple of huge parties. When they get shutdown all of the sudden tons and tons of people are all trashed and milling around. If they wouldn't have busted the parties people probably would have left in smaller groups over a long period of time.

Well, WTF do people expect, having huge underage parties? That they ARENT gonna get shut down? And, to all you people who think its "cool" or "fun" to beat down an officer of the law, then gripe when one of your friends gets the living daylights beat outta them...they get what they deserve. It is a TOTAL lack of respect for law and order. plain and simple. Everyone targets the cops...the cops go into defensive mode. They are outnumbered, in uniform, and there to keep order, in a place where, obviously, people think its more "fun" to act like animals than have consideration for their fellow human beings.
you know, I like watching kids get the crap kicked outta them by 5 or 6 cops. I have been on the police side of it...15 of us...200 of them. Is it any wonder police may get a little overzealous when they take someone down? You ever have bottles, urine, or ANYTHING like that thrown at you? Been spit on? And, on top of that...told by your command that you cant do anything about it? Until you have stood on the other side of the line, shut up.
And, to all of you who think riots are fun...wait till you get caught. Then, the fun ends. Stupid hurts...sometimes alot

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by oldsoldier
Stupid hurts...sometimes alot

Often it doesn't hurt enough ...

[wallace9111]

I am not going to defend my comments that I posted earlier, I did have fun and I didn't hurl bottles at cops. It was an entertaining scene to watch! But to all of you "supposed COPS" go to hell. It is so easy to justify the situation and say everyone was wrong but the COPS. That is such a crock of crap! Bad things happened on both sides, and at this point in time it does not make one bit of difference how it got started, just what resulted!

Now to all you people who think I am just some punk kid with no experience with the law, yet again go suck on something! My father is Officer for Upland PD back in my home town, I respect Police officers, and for the most part they are great people who do deserve my respect. Although, I know some cops(family friends) who do some bad things and are not ashamed of it. The riots gave a lot of these people excuses to do some malicious acts.

Again to the supposed "COPS", I do not know if you are officers, it sounds like old soldier is, but to the rest there are rights and justifying idiots actions by responding back with brute force is not always the answer.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by wallace9111
I did have fun and I didn't hurl bottles at cops. It was an entertaining scene to watch!

Those idiots that were throwing bottles and the idiots who thought is was fun to watch the idiots throw bottles.

ALL really deserved to be knocked in the head with those same bottles.

The place to dispute an officers action is at the public review board or before the courts.

If you REALLY respect the police, you leave as soon as told or it's obvious here's trouble.

If you REALLY respect the police, you surrender quietly when arrested.

If you do the above, it's VERY difficult for even the most crooked cop to do anything malicious to you.

If you REALLY respect the police, you don't have fun watching them being attacked for doing their job.

If you REALLY respect the community, you'd be behind any effort to control poor behaviour and defend the community's property, safety, and environment.

Ask your father how much respect he feels from the hooligans on rooftops laughing and shouting and egging the rioters on as he tries to enforce the law and not get killed while faced with an unruly mob.

I doubt he'd find them respectful at all.

To all the low life hooligans who think that the destruction of private and public property and flouting the law is fun, "go to hell".

I'll even support my local cops and help them send you there ...

[wallace9111]

I guess the only thing I can say back is "Blame Canada!"

I watched the events of that night happen from a safe distance on the other side of street behind a fence patrolled by police. I was not involved directly and there was nothing I could do to stop or even change the events that were happening. So I chose, like the curious kid that I am, to watch the scene unfurl.

Thank You for expressing your opinion on what I should "really" do and feel! I will react to any situation the way I feel I should, and not how some stupid Canuck tells me how to act!

I do not know how things work in Canada but here in real America and not America JR. we riot for real reasons and not because Axle Rose and his band of idiots will not come out and sing!

[thei3ug]

Umm, dare I mention the riots after IU fired their psycho coach?

Or for that matter, every time the Bulls one the championship?

Oh christ, us people in america only riot for GOOD reasons!

Is there ever a good reason to destroy other people's property and attack other people? Tell me what that is.

[wallace9111]

[stang68]

just a little off topic but responding to some earlier posts
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[wallace9111]

Hey its not off topic. In case you guys didn't know there are now 2 fields here! Breakout is opening a airball field in 2 weeks and Brad Scott(Zero Tolerance) also has a real field. We had AO CA day there a month ago. As long as you can ball you are welcome out to Brads(and you can control yourself). He has 2 hyperball fields, which incedently is being used for another tournment this weekend(Frat wars). He is also working on getting an airball field up soon and has been saving money for quite some time.(reason for AO CA)We play twice a month at the field, there is also Compressed air and C02 out there(comes at a minor cost). The next time we play is on the 6th of march.

[Off Center]

Shouldn't the police have focused on preventing a riot rather than trying to contain/control one after it happened?

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by wallace9111
My other stupid roomate was filling bottles with rocks and throwing them. I thought it would be funny with just bottles but the dumbass decided to fill them with rocks somehow, then got tackled by a swot cop, who then proceeded to get knocked down and my roomate ran away. Fun times by all!!! Idiots!

If that's good fun and you condone it, then I look forward to the day someone thinks it's good fun to hurl bottles at you.

I wonder how much your father enjoys having a son who thinks it's fun to throw bottles at cops.

Then you fall right into name calling, well ...

Originally posted by wallace9111
I do not know how things work in Canada but here in real America and not America JR. we riot for real reasons and not because Axle Rose and his band of idiots will not come out and sing!

Well, I don't see why I should expect much intelligence from some Yank who thinks destruction of public property and attacking the police are funny.

As for America junior, don't make me laugh. What makes you think we want to be like you? You can take your manifest destiny crap and choke.

And as for rioting for "real" reasons. You really don't get it do you? There isn't one single good reason to riot. Rioting is just mob terrorism.

But then again I live in a place that can have gatherings of 100,000+ people in the city streets with liquor and beer being sold and never a violent incident.

[tyrion2323]

Wallace, you need to stop talking, or you're going to get ripped apart. This isn't PBN. You're going to find that most people on these forums aren't teenage kids going through hormonal imbalances, and think it's funny to watch cops get harassed or make fun of Canada. Canada's crime statistics put America to shame.