Got my Q-Loader today.....

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  • orpheos
    I am the walrus
    • Oct 2000
    • 43

    #61
    Well, trying to engineer something like that right now. When I first saw this, that's exactly what I thought. So we'll see.

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    • GoatBoy
      Junior Mint
      • Jun 2003
      • 1399

      #62
      Originally posted by Rather


      Hmm. that could be better.


      But the Warp ULE isn't cocker threaded...or even threaded for that matter, I believe...

      Ask them to make the neck of it like a feed elbow and mabey some orings on it...keep it from slipping around... bit more feaseable.

      Ah, I have a non-warp ULE, so mine's threaded I was looking at the warp ULE earlier and wondering if it was threaded as well, but you just answered my question.

      As far as your elbow idea, yeah, I was thinking something similar... except make it like a clamping feed neck like what's all the rage these days. The clamp will be on the q-loader mount, and it'd clamp onto the warp feed tube. Voila! Hopefully the mount would be designed to be non-marring.

      Of course, I have no say as to what the folks at q-loader do; they didn't even have the courtesy to reply to my email.

      And speaking of that email, I also had a second suggestion for them that I assume they promptly ignored, but you guys might be interested...

      I told them they should investigate making the qloaders automatically eject themselves after being spent. This should be fairly easy to mechanically implement. The issue is, quite frankly, we only have two hands. Well, most of us only have two hands. One hand is busy presumably holding the gun up. So you have one hand to manage the reload with.

      The reload procedure right now is:

      1. Remove the empty pod.
      2. REACH BACK and grab a fresh one.
      3. Put in on the gun.

      While still easily better than reloading a conventional hopper, it's still hampered by the fact that we cannot reach back and get a new pod until we've removed the empty one, since we only have one hand free to do all this with.


      With an auto-ejecting pod, what happens is while you are still firing, you go ahead and reach back for a new pod, anticipating the current one is going to be empty soon. As soon as it does empty, it ejects itself and you slam the new one on immediately. Almost no break in firing continuity.

      As far as I am concerned, this is the true solution to the "I can't top it off" argument against the q-loader. You don't need to top the stupid thing off, just fire it dry and have the next one immediately ready to go.

      And any remaining doubts about reloading speed will have been completely squashed.
      "Accuracy by aiming."


      Definitely not on the A-Team.

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      • UThomas
        Registered User

        • Dec 2002
        • 767

        #63
        Of course, I have no say as to what the folks at q-loader do; they didn't even have the courtesy to reply to my email.

        I would imagine its not personal. They are I imagine tremendously busy what with a new product launch and all.
        Thomas http://www.thomaspaintball.com http://www.youtube.com/user/Thomas4093

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        • Nexus
          Registered User
          • Nov 2003
          • 127

          #64
          I vote for a mount that puts the loader on the side of my gun sort of where a warp would go.

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          • FutureMagOwner
            Registered User
            • Dec 2001
            • 3354

            #65
            yeah the responded to my emails 2 times and called my house about 50 million times so far they are very busy lol they probably should get a better database or something...

            anyway im making my own tank mount in 3 easy steps however wait for me to do it first to test it out (dont want others to screw their guns up and blame me) basically take a 3/4" diameter pipe get sledge hammer and squish the end of it. drill 2 holes large enough for screws where you went squishy and now you got yourself a tank mount... want it higher? bend the bar! and yes im doing this for real lol

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            • Rather
              Registered User
              • Nov 2002
              • 757

              #66
              I believe they developed a mount for it to go next to your tank, basically like a warp...


              Goat, Works just as well. But seing as to how msot of the Q is plastic, I doubt they want to machine more metal parts than necessary...At leat for now, giv eit a couple years to evolve and then they might use more metal for the mount. (judgement taken from pics of Q mount)

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              • FutureMagOwner
                Registered User
                • Dec 2001
                • 3354

                #67
                us emag owners who cant do vertical at the barrel and want to use their loaders now however cant wait for it to come out

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                • Jack & Coke
                  TUNAMAX No. 1
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2644

                  #68
                  I agree... I think a side mount (warp type mounting adapter) would be the best setup.

                  Last edited by Jack & Coke; 03-04-2004, 10:39 AM.

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                  • FutureMagOwner
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 3354

                    #69
                    i think it has a couple key benefits now that i think of it

                    1. were used to holding are guns at around the front grip area switching to holding it by the pod on the barrel rifle style if you want to do that, or having part of your grip cut off is a big difference in feel

                    2. because of 1 its also easier to just drop your hand a little bit and slide the pod out rather then reaching forward and grabbing it.

                    3. if its vertical you also dont have those problems but you have the problem with the pod making the gun so tall and kinda make the gun more front heavy (which for me i like my guns really back heavy its easier to move around imho)

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                    • hostage
                      Boo-yaah/Mako Fixer
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 1529

                      #70
                      Here is how I did mine, I think I want to either mount int parallel to the tank or fabricate a part so it mounts simular to a warp.
                      -Doron

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                      • The Deacon
                        Team 10th Mountain
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 542

                        #71
                        Here's how I got mine set up till the foregrip comes in:

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                        • Jack & Coke
                          TUNAMAX No. 1
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 2644

                          #72
                          f.y.i.

                          Originally posted by Rather

                          But the Warp ULE isn't cocker threaded...or even threaded for that matter, I believe...
                          From: http://store.airgun.com/index.cfm?fu...&categoryID=73




                          [Warp ULE features] "...Screw in feed tube with Angel threads..."

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                          • The Deacon
                            Team 10th Mountain
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 542

                            #73
                            Just put paint through it and did a couple of "oh crap" scenarios. Shoots great, couldn't outshoot it like I can my rico (doesn't say much).

                            It was working fine, so I decided to give it hell. I used some oblong cruddy balls and it still got em to the gun. They broke in the barrel, but that's beside the point.

                            I then decided to chop a ball by cutting a pod impoperly set up out too early. It would not feed through that break, so SET YOUR PODS UP CORRECTLY! Make sure the feed hose is proper length or you'll be sorry.

                            And yes, it does shoot upside down like a champ.

                            And hostage, by the way... nice pants.
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                            • hostage
                              Boo-yaah/Mako Fixer
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 1529

                              #74
                              lol for some reason i knew someone would imply on my pants.
                              -Doron
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                              • Glickman
                                *Insert Witty Phrase*
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2673

                                #75
                                i just got my q-loader yesterday, (damn delays ) and i was order number 61 :/ these things are great, the only thing is that the spring is a little too .. uh.... hard? think of big billy the biker trying to hug a 4'2'' midgit. Yea, both situations are pretty much the same. Aside from popping a few balls here and there, its a great concept, and i guess every 1st generation item has gotta have its drawbacks. personally id recommend to wait till they work out all teh bugs.

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