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  • Eagle
    The hand of vengence
    • May 2001
    • 950

    #1

    Navy Force Protection Training

    The Weapons Officer on my boat found out that I play paintball and has tasked me to develope a Force Protection exercise utilizing paintball. The field I play at has a small 5 room shack that would work well for room clearing practice, but I want to try and create a high stress environment that will require one to think and at the same time have a racing heart and contend with distractions. I'm thinking of some airhorns, maybe some bullhorns with sound effects, non-flamable smoke grenades, even some remote detonated paint mines if I can find them.

    If anyone has any suggestions or knows where I can find any of these supplies it would be appreciated.
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  • FlameboyC11
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 96

    #2
    Well, why not do that after making them stay up all night. That always adds to any distraction, and makes everything seem more surreal (blurs senses if you are not used to sleep deprivation). Boating supply stores always have airhorns which are cheap, but the rest of the stuff is probably pretty expensive. No clue about the mines and smoke grenades tho. Do a google search for that stuff.

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    • Chojin Man
      toodle
      • Dec 2003
      • 1229

      #3
      What exactly is a "Force Protection excercise"?

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      • tg ur 1t
        Registered User
        • Feb 2002
        • 75

        #4
        maybe a bit more info is needed... like what is the excercise for.
        VBSS tactics or Security Alert tactics... or are we talking shipboard special forces tactics?
        Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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        • breg
          mean & hateful, fat & ugly
          • Jan 2003
          • 1037

          #5
          Originally posted by Chojin Man
          What exactly is a "Force Protection excercise"?
          Think of it as small scale wargames, involving a more specifice scenario. I.E. you have to recapture a truck.

          You could plant bystanders in the rooms, have objects that are not to be shot (i.e. critical ship compontents, various munitions [simulated, of course], hostages, have radically varying temperatures in the rooms, people one the side of the trainees refusing to do their jobs, changing mission objectives in the middle of the exercise.

          one of the ways that or Air Force inspector monkey wrench our exercises is by giving inputs in the middle of an exercise. We will be having a fire drill and everything is going fine and they will say that all of the sudden Airman So-and-so just succombed to the smoke and passed out. You could also say that the way that they came in was hit by an RPG and is now inaccessible and now they have to find a new way out.
          Giant flying dogs are gonna give you a flame-thrower enema!!!

          SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS!!!!!!!!

          Chuff!!! Chuff!!!

          ABQHC

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          • tg ur 1t
            Registered User
            • Feb 2002
            • 75

            #6
            "people one the side of the trainees refusing to do their jobs"
            good one!

            having people not cooperate is a big one. that can be an extreme pressure builder and it is quite common in situations. in the military it can be as easy as someone not speaking your language, so they don't know what you are telling them to do.
            Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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            • breg
              mean & hateful, fat & ugly
              • Jan 2003
              • 1037

              #7
              Originally posted by tg ur 1t
              "people one the side of the trainees refusing to do their jobs"
              good one!

              having people not cooperate is a big one. that can be an extreme pressure builder and it is quite common in situations. in the military it can be as easy as someone not speaking your language, so they don't know what you are telling them to do.
              We had a deployment e3xercise out here once, and the inspectors gave a friend of mine an input that while he was in the line to board the simulated plane, he was to throw down his weapon and refuse to board citing family problems...

              That is where I got that one.
              Giant flying dogs are gonna give you a flame-thrower enema!!!

              SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS!!!!!!!!

              Chuff!!! Chuff!!!

              ABQHC

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              • tg ur 1t
                Registered User
                • Feb 2002
                • 75

                #8
                we simulated a VBSS excersize and I played a member of the tankers crew. I played to not speak any english, and constantly tried to unaggressively leave my designated area.

                when I boarded a tanker in the GULF... that happened to me
                Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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                • breg
                  mean & hateful, fat & ugly
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1037

                  #9
                  Yeah, when i was in Kuwait, the TCN's would always try to play dumb, but we knew that they had to know the rules or they would not be on base. They hated me because I would not let anything go.
                  Giant flying dogs are gonna give you a flame-thrower enema!!!

                  SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS!!!!!!!!

                  Chuff!!! Chuff!!!

                  ABQHC

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                  • Eagle
                    The hand of vengence
                    • May 2001
                    • 950

                    #10
                    these are some pretty good ideas, keep them coming. I espesially like the idea of putting 'don't shoot' obsticles in the rooms.
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                    • Doobie
                      AOsOfficialDrillSergeant
                      • May 2001
                      • 1237

                      #11
                      A great one I have used in training our nations Infantrymen:
                      Have "don't shoot" people in the room, lke hostages, as already stated. Then, when that room is secure and before the entry team can prepare to move to the next room, some one A) Does a dynamic entry from another room on THEM or B) A civilian (non-combatant) rushes into the room with a broom in their hands.
                      I always teach my guys to look at peoples hands before deciding to shoot and to never let their guard down on un-cleared entry points to a room. These drills re-enforce both. Good luck in your training.

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                      (...but a 'mag helps)
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                      • Chojin Man
                        toodle
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1229

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Doobie
                        Then, when that room is secure and before the entry team can prepare to move to the next room, some one A) Does a dynamic entry from another room on THEM
                        That is a really good one!

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                        • breg
                          mean & hateful, fat & ugly
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1037

                          #13
                          By the way Eagle, what kind of markers are you planning on using?
                          Giant flying dogs are gonna give you a flame-thrower enema!!!

                          SUPPORT YOUR TROOPS!!!!!!!!

                          Chuff!!! Chuff!!!

                          ABQHC

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                          • Eagle
                            The hand of vengence
                            • May 2001
                            • 950

                            #14
                            Dobbie's idea of multiple waves is good. A few of us have our own equipment: couple Spyders, an Impulse, my Emag, but most will be using rental Tippmann 98s.
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                            • OysterBoy
                              Fatty McChubbercookie
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1409

                              #15
                              Its been awhile since I looked in my little black book of doom, but if I remember correclty, take 6 parts salt-peter and 4 parts sugar (or vice versa) stick in a match before the solution solidifies (or a fuse). light it, and youv ejust created a HUGE smoke bomb (white smoke, and LOTS of it)

                              Good luck.

                              Also try including walkietalkies, and have one that you can interrupt their chatting with a disturbing noise, say if its a hostage takeover, have loud screaming, just to mess with their minds...

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