Speculation; AGD + Merging = ???

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  • OysterBoy
    Fatty McChubbercookie
    • Feb 2004
    • 1409

    #1

    Speculation; AGD + Merging = ???

    Well I was just thinking. REMEMBER, THIS IS PURELY SPECULATION!!!

    What do YOU think would happen if AGD merged with a comapny like PMI (Another old, surviving company, adn I still say they make better guns then Kingman), OR VICE VERSA (PMI Joining AGD to form AGD...lol)

    As far as I know there is very little anemosity between the 2, and the are both companies from back in the day

    How would either company be affected?

    Would they have a better shot at getting sponsored tournament teams sporting the AGD/PMI logo??


    Remember, this is speculation, NOT suggestion.

    Your thoughts???

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  • WARPED1
    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
    • Nov 2001
    • 7458

    #2
    AGD and NPS. Since NPS has already signed with SP to be able to continue electros, the E/X Mags could continue without interruption.
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    • OysterBoy
      Fatty McChubbercookie
      • Feb 2004
      • 1409

      #3
      ..true, but then they are just another one of the flock that NPS owns.

      Still, good comment.

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      • Bolter
        Hardcore casual
        • May 2003
        • 1223

        #4
        The guy who is AGDEurope has just taken on NPS Europe also.

        *brain ticking over*
        Bolter
        Storm Uk

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        • Butterfingers
          PhD in Automagology
          • Jan 2001
          • 2263

          #5
          This might not be such a bad idea...

          Perhaps tom could strike up a deal with a paintball company that dosent make guns.

          This is completely arbitrary. It could be any company.

          But perhaps an RP Scherer/AGD sponsored pro team where AGD makes RP Special Edition Mags for RPS and RPS can brag about how good thier paintballs are for taking X championships.

          "RPS only the best use the best..." "Breaks on the player not in your gun..." "Out of Millions of paintballs we shot during the 2005 season we only broke 2 (LX!) RPS where quality counts"

          I can see it now... AGD will dominate.
          Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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          • Brophog
            Registered User
            • Jan 2004
            • 346

            #6
            Speculation or not, I don't see it happening.

            You'd be hard pressed to get me to believe Tom is only in this business for that reason, business. I kinda believe he'd just pack it up if things got to bad.

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            • WARPED1
              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
              • Nov 2001
              • 7458

              #7
              AGD needs to merge with somone who has already dealt with SP, like NPS has. Then they can make the E/X mags. If they stop producing, and Pride(for example) goes mech, they will get eaten alive by all the other teams with superior firepower. 14 years ago when I started playing, skill was needed more than firepower, but now it's more firepower based. Skill helps still a little.
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              • OysterBoy
                Fatty McChubbercookie
                • Feb 2004
                • 1409

                #8
                To Brophog

                I see your point, but what about the lifes work? The employees??

                Really, its more then just 'wahts right', but honestly if they did, where would everyone work? Sure, they could seperate and eventually join other paintball companies but thats even worse.

                My 0.02 CDN (which counts for nothing in America..)

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                • Brophog
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 346

                  #9
                  The problem with that logic is, when companies merge, one of the largest reasons is to cut LABOR. Very rarely do you keep the majority of your staff after merging.

                  What assets does AGD have that a prospective company would acquire due to the merger?

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                  • OysterBoy
                    Fatty McChubbercookie
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1409

                    #10
                    obviously highly-trained tech and engineering. I think the idea of merging with a non-marker making company would be MOST logical, as no one from either side would have to get shafted, just put into different departments.

                    Once again, this is all just thought, AGD decides how AGD will live or die.

                    Just for the record, I'm a 'Mech' supporter.

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                    Baby Peacocks are people too ...
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                    • Lee
                      Team Trigger Happy
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 2395

                      #11
                      nice speculation, but, i hope that it would not be pmi. thier quality has gone WAY down since back in the day.

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                      • RoadDawg
                        Degeneration X is back
                        • May 2001
                        • 4023

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WARPED1
                        AGD needs to merge with somone who has already dealt with SP, like NPS has. Then they can make the E/X mags. If they stop producing, and Pride(for example) goes mech, they will get eaten alive by all the other teams with superior firepower. 14 years ago when I started playing, skill was needed more than firepower, but now it's more firepower based. Skill helps still a little.
                        With the X and Emag being discontinued that doesn't mean they won't still be shooting them. After all they do last long periods of time and I'm pretty sure AGD wouldn't stop fixing a product they have made and discontinued. Skill makes up for more then people give credit. It's quite simple that if you don't know how to move or out smart the opponent your not gonna get very far. Now firepower is a presence but I still feel that without quite a bit of skill the game would be just sit back and watch type of deals. IMO AGD doesn't really need to merge with anyone. I see more and more mag owners popping up all the time. Most are off the used market so AGD doesn't get the $$$ but upgrades are where it's at.
                        Sorry, I'm old

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                        • WARPED1
                          I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 7458

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RoadDawg

                          With the X and Emag being discontinued that doesn't mean they won't still be shooting them. After all they do last long periods of time and I'm pretty sure AGD wouldn't stop fixing a product they have made and discontinued. Skill makes up for more then people give credit. It's quite simple that if you don't know how to move or out smart the opponent your not gonna get very far. Now firepower is a presence but I still feel that without quite a bit of skill the game would be just sit back and watch type of deals. IMO AGD doesn't really need to merge with anyone. I see more and more mag owners popping up all the time. Most are off the used market so AGD doesn't get the $$$ but upgrades are where it's at.
                          You'd think the factory team would shoot the top of the line marker AGD has.....AND STILL PRODUCES!
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                          • Butterfingers
                            PhD in Automagology
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 2263

                            #14
                            Well Id say we change the rules around a bit and allow reactive triggers since guns now that have ridiculoous uncontollable bounce are legal.

                            AGD would rape the industry.

                            If I pull the trigger on my RT I get an instant 23 BPS... Its still safe unlike bounce markers that keep firing after you let go...
                            Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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                            • RoadDawg
                              Degeneration X is back
                              • May 2001
                              • 4023

                              #15
                              Originally posted by WARPED1
                              You'd think the factory team would shoot the top of the line marker AGD has.....AND STILL PRODUCES!
                              If you noticed AGD also said that it's gonna revamp the Emag and release in 2k5 hopefully when the SP issue is solved. So many negative people. AGD has survived this long with only 1 basic electro mag. Now the tourny players and people that can afford to shot lots of paint will go electro. The rest of the marekt goes after Mechanical and that is what AGD offers and are fantastic at. With the ULT (which needs to be marketed IMO) could bring mech's back to the scenes as these things CAN be real quick and light (even walkable). Electro's are a piece of the tourny scene but how many weekend warriors play with electro's? From what I've seen electro spyders seem to be the most common and that's due to the cheapness of the marker and being foreign made. AGD's might be more pricey but it's tough and will last longer then most markers. AGD will be around for awhile, even without the Electro market for a year or so. Gives them time to R&D a top notch electro and get rid of the complaints of the original emag.
                              Sorry, I'm old

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