Whos next?

[vf-xx]

Originally posted by Steelrat
Who knows? The people who DO know arent saying anything, which leaves most of us in the dark. Frankly, its enough to make me want to sell all my stuff and go play Warhammer 40K for a few years until everything is settled. Im tired of buying guns, then having the companies stop making them.

May I reccomend Mechwarrior: Dark age aka clicky tech. All the fun of Battletech sans tech cards and overly long battles. Plus the added bonus of various unit types.

[spantol]

Who's next?

My money would be on Powerlyte and MacDev being the next two hit, assuming Powerlyte gets their Isis out the door soon. Both are smaller companies, and both have markers that compete (or will compete) directly with the Shocker.

Afte that, I'd say OGI'll get hit for their O3, if they haven't already worked something out.

Oh, and I'm half-rooting for Evil to be on the near-term list, too, for their PIMP kit. That thing has "contributory infringement" written all over it. Hell, it's in their copy.

[yeahthatsme]

evil would be on the list for the omen, its electronic as well, but evil is backed by PMI, and a ton of money, so they will probably not be on the near-future targets list.

[WARPED1]

Re: Whos next?

Originally posted by Lohman446

Frankly, if WGP, AKA, AGD and Tippman all bow out of the electros and work together, or seperatly to produce uber mechanical guns, are we going to see the electro market crumble, Is it possible?

Simple answer, no.
Not as long as theres an NPPL and PSP.

[fallout11]

Actually, I correctly guessed that AKA and AGD would drop their electro lines.
So, needless to say, I was not surpised at the news, only the relative timing.

And I will hang it on out there and predict (right or wrong, time will tell), that yes, Lohman446 is pretty much on the money, and Tippman will also bow out of electros. Their core business does not rely on them.

I'm not sure sure about WGP, but it would not surprise me to see them drop their E line in the not too distant future.
What this means is a return to work on improving mechanicals, at least for these companies. Assuming SP's patent remains unchallenged, or is upheld if it is.

Kingman, on the other hand, will fight....their profit per marker sold is very low ($13 on average), so they cannot really afford to absorb the cost of per-marker royalty payments to SP.

NPPL and PSP teams will have a more limited selection of electronic marker manufacturers to choose from, but you're right, Warped1, they and their teams will stick with whatever electros are available.

[Lohman446]

Anyone find it odd that the remaining non-signed manufacturers (those that have not reached an agreement) are declaring end of production in alphebatical order?

[fallout11]

So, ATS is up next?
Or Brass Eagle?

[127.0.0.1]

Powerlyte maybe next... I hope not.

[fallout11]

Mmmm....could be.
Powerlyte is small.

But with the Isis just coming out, I'll bet they'll settle, if approached by SP.
For the same reasons ICD did....they have a lot of money tied up in a brand new product, and have to be able to sell it to recover financially.
Otherwise, they'll be sitting on all that already-incurred cost (R&D, tooling, pre-production costs, prototyping, and unsellable inventory, if any).

We'll see.

[Beemer]

you tell me

Originally posted by WARPED1
Simple answer, no.
Not as long as theres an NPPL and PSP.

You think you know more then everybody else so you tell me.

If the e-markers followed ASTM standards, would it really matter if its mech, or e

Prove to me how much you really know

[ogre55]

Originally posted by spantol
Gladly.

This patent won't affect WDP's operations in Europe.

It does, or will, however, affect WDP's operations here. When they do business in this country they are subject to our IP laws. They're a valid target for Smart Parts.

Actually, WDPs operations in Europe would also be effected b/c England (and most of the rest of Europe) has treaties with the US regarding reciprocity of respective patents.

WDP may be the last best hope for a company standing up to SP, rather than signing on. WDP is fairly rich and e-markers are their bread and butter. They can't simply stop production of Angels as that would leave them with nothing. So they will either fight, or join Dye, NPS....

Ogre

[billmi]

Re: you tell me

Originally posted by Beemer

If the e-markers followed ASTM standards, would it really matter if its mech, or e

I don't think it would make a significant difference.

[Wes Janson]

If.

[bleachit]

Re: Re: Whos next?

Originally posted by chizle97

dose SP remind anyone else of the romans and alexarnder the great?

no, the Romans were bad arse, sp just prefers the company of men.

[shartley]

Well... AGD bowed out of the electro market Friday

Me thinks folks may not have read everything AGD posted, and may be counting them out prematurely.