AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
the patent doesnt just cover noids, it covers the use of electronics to fire the marker. just leaving the noid out wont keep you out of trouble.
Originally posted by AGD
People let me tell you, this is VERY VERY REAL. If you don't believe it, call Smart Parts directly and ask them if they have the patent rights on all electronic guns.
Why do you think we have been working on the ULE Trigger?
OK so why not go with my first option then, a marker with electronics (ace etc) that is not fired electronically. Surely there is no law that says I can't drop in a centerflag upgrade? After all the centerflag upgrade is just a metal frame with electronics and a solenoid. There's nothing in the description that says it has anything to do with paintball markers. So the AGD marker would be legal because it's mechanically fired, and the Centerflag upgrade would be legal because it's just a bit of metal with a circuit board and solenoid....
I think that WDP and Kingman are next, both of which will fight in court. I would love to see either one lay the smackdown on SP. I just don't see how they can attack a company in court when the markers were made before the patent.
Kingman will, or they might have already, sign out of court with SP. No telling what WDP will do. If they're smart like ICD, DYE, and NPS they'll sign as well.
As far as Kingman being next, I think your wrong. I think there may be some legal strategy here.
AGD, AKA, Dye, NPS, ICD all dodged the fight or at least the end, I assume. Though I still see AGD ending up paying some past fees for royalties. They have left standing Tippman (who will dodge the fight I assume) WGP (dodge coming, I woudl assume), WDP, PMI, and Kingman. WDP is not protected by being overseas, it just makes them a pain to sue. Kingman has the backing to fight this to the end, they cannot settle.
However, if I was SP, Kingman would not even be on my list as long as they kept there prices and quality where they are at (no stabs at SP quality here please). Frankly they don't compete wtih SP, they are a non threat, why risk the legal oops of trying to sue them, with little to gain, and possibly failing and setting precident to allow AKA, AGD and any of the other soon to bow out back in to the game.
Besides, I think SP already screwed up. I think that mechanical and pneumatic assisted mechanical markers are very very close, and that there will be not advantage to the electros anymore.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
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