What will AGD's Factory Teams shoot now?

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by AGD
Everyone wants to dance on our grave with this but remember its a PAUSE nothing else. As you just saw what happened to AKA maybe its starting to make more sense.

AGD

Yeh, it does. And somehow Tom, I just don't beleive that you didn't have some insight into AKAs announcement when you made yours.

[speedyejl]

Originally posted by LaW


Well if you think about it, they are not going to be shooting mech mags... that would not make sense. Just seems you are jumping to a question that has not needed to be asked?

What I thought it was the player that counts people! What does it matter if they have a mech or electro

[Butterfingers]

I beleive a member of aftershock was using a Retromag and was still VERY competitive up until be went X a few years ago.

[FlashTX]

Originally posted by Butterfingers
Tom never said he was stopping DEVELOPMENT he said he was stopping PRODUCTION...

Well said! I, for one, will eagerly await the next innovation that AGD has in store for us.

(edit) Ed...has Flip (Mayberry Marauder's beloved Monkey King, long may he reign) gotten in touch with you about seeing your drop-forward, well...drop-upward(???) set up yet?

PS - Team Sandbaggers ruled Texball!

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by Butterfingers
While smart parts is paying millions to lawyers on thier quest and accruing enormous debt...

Here's a thought, open phantom manufacturing operations and sell the Vikings.

For the cost of incorporating you could sell a few, cost SP thousands in lawyers fees, and cease production and close the shop before the lawyers can draw blood.

Bleed SP financially.

[LaW]

Originally posted by speedyejl


What I thought it was the player that counts people! What does it matter if they have a mech or electro

That used to be true... until you have a stream of 18bps coming at you vers maybe the 11bps your dishing out you dont really have an advantage do you? These days its the teams throwing the most paint that win... kind of sad. (not always the case but you get the idea)

[speedyejl]

I didn't mean to pick you out specifically but just to point out that mechs are becoming outdated on the tournament scene.

To play devil's advocate I will argue with the team throwing the most paint wins. Look at Dynasty a lot of their players used Revs all last year and if you don't believe the rumors that they had force fed revs, they couldn't have been shooting more than 13bps.

[Butterfingers]

true... there is a point where ROF becomes tacticaly disadvantagous....

Waste paint waste air... fairly outweighs the diminishing returns of hit probability.

[Beemer]

Originally posted by LaW


That used to be true... until you have a stream of 18bps coming at you vers maybe the 11bps your dishing out you dont really have an advantage do you? These days its the teams throwing the most paint that win... kind of sad. (not always the case but you get the idea)

The thing is not very many REALLY pull that fast.

If this would happen things would be different

Originally posted by AGD

If tournament rules would really stick to one shot per pull.... Oh Baby it would be an new day!

AGD

[LaW]

Originally posted by Beemer


The thing is not very many REALLY pull that fast.

If this would happen things would be different

Of course they dont pull that fast, but the marker is firing that fast! Paintball needs a set of rules that are actually followed.

[Beemer]

They do

Originally posted by LaW



Of course they dont pull that fast, but the marker is firing that fast! Paintball needs a set of rules that are actually followed.

The rules are there, just not followed

[LaW]

Re: They do

Originally posted by Beemer


The rules are there, just not followed

Thats what I said... but anyhow the rules are not that good to begin with.

[Quickling]

Me, being a pumper... would think it cool as hell to see them shooting mechs. Show them little punks out there that those 03 shockers won't save their butts.

Nothing more fun than messing up the trash talking ,timmy toating teams with your lesser firepower.

*edit* I also think that throwing paint eventually becomes a disadvantage... I can't even count the number of eliminations I have made because the player with the timmy thought it was a good stratgey to stick out longer shooting a long string at my teammate. That string can't keep us all in... so if your making it, chances are someone can have a better chance of getting a shot off at you.

[GoatBoy]

Originally posted by Butterfingers
true... there is a point where ROF becomes tacticaly disadvantagous....

Waste paint waste air... fairly outweighs the diminishing returns of hit probability.

I'm betting that accuracy by volume will go the same way as trigger fanning.

I remember having a conversation with the guy that seems to dump the most paint at the field that I normally play at.

"Man, EVERYWHERE I go, I see your paint lying on the ground."

"Yep, that's the problem. If it's lying on the ground, that means it didn't hit you."


One thing I would really like to see is tournaments start keeping stats on paint usage, just as stats are kept on various other details in other sports. Players check in with how much paint they're carrying, and after the game is over, they quickly check them again. You don't have to check every ball, but you can eyeball pods/hoppers to a fair degree of accuracy.

I think we should make a plot of paint usage, wins/losses, and eliminations, and see where the arrow points.

[Quickling]

One thing I would really like to see is tournaments start keeping stats on paint usage, just as stats are kept on various other details in other sports. Players check in with how much paint they're carrying, and after the game is over, they quickly check them again. You don't have to check every ball, but you can eyeball pods/hoppers to a fair degree of accuracy.

WOW! I love that idea! I think that would create a bragging check on bps. Some people might like to be considered 'better shots' and might make a conscious effort to limit them if it would be discovered (ie tracked and made avialible).

Of course that would create a further bias for us pump guys. People would be even more entrenched in the idea that we are more accurate.... but even if we couldn't hit a barn standing inside it, i t would look like we were better shots since we use less paint.. lol