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  • HoppysMag
    Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
    • Oct 2001
    • 3494

    #1

    Cycle Rate????

    Hey i heard that the mags vaulve cycle rate is 28 times a second.is this true? Wht are the cycle rates of other guns? (Spyders,cockers,angels......ect)
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    • Oct 2001
    • 696

    #2
    The retro can cycle up to 26 BPS with no shoot down.
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    • Butterfingers
      PhD in Automagology
      • Jan 2001
      • 2263

      #3
      26 w/o shootdown for the RT/retro

      im not sure about other guns. But I know the RT is the fastest valve on the market today.

      Beware, there is a diffrence between cycling and cycling w/o shootdown.
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      • HoppysMag
        Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
        • Oct 2001
        • 3494

        #4
        well ether way

        im just curious. ssssooooo i will say w/o shoot down. what does a regular Mag Vaulve do?( the one in a Mini OR 68 Classic)
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        • Bartleby
          Purple People Eater
          • Sep 2001
          • 803

          #5
          i've seen a video of a regular mag doing 16 with no shootdown. but i think the average from gun to gun would probably be more around 13 or 14.
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          • Jonneh
            A nice fellow.
            • May 2001
            • 990

            #6
            Can you tell if a marker is downshooting? do the balls visibly drop quicker or does the gun cough or something?

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            • ThePatriot

              #7
              I notice shootdown on my spyder when i am running remote...i keep thinkin my air is running low...but its just me poundin away at the trigger, id say spyders have like a 7bps MAX before shootdown, i notice i get shootdown alot with it, thats why im getting a mag

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              • Cha0tic
                g0t mag?
                • Feb 2001
                • 1990

                #8
                balls will start to fall shorter. your velocity will drop off.

                a regular mag will have shootdown at 16bps. a regular mag can do about 12 before shootdown will occur.

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                • Bartleby
                  Purple People Eater
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 803

                  #9
                  no the balls don't drop faster. they simply don't go as far. Newton's law of gravity says that any two objects of equal size and mass, one dropped and the other fired perfectly horizontally at the same time, will hit the ground at the same time.
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                  • Ityl
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2000
                    • 706

                    #10
                    shoot down will also depend on how the air is run. using a gas through grip or external reg or micro, macro, steel line, they make a difference.
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                    • Wc Keep

                      #11
                      in what video did you see a mag valve cycle at 16 bps??? was it regular mag or was it modified in some way??

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                      • Bartleby
                        Purple People Eater
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 803

                        #12
                        it wasn't modified in any way. just a stock valve assembly. i dont remember what video but i'm sure you could find it somewhere.
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