==> Where can I get a Z-VALVE? <==

[MoserMan]

I can't find them anywhere!!!

[Load SM5]

Why on earth would you want one?

[MoserMan]

Plz real replies that answer the question only

[Army]

Just ask on Classifieds. Nearly everyone who has bought one, found out they got ripped off and now want to sell it.

These poor misguided souls, too, fell for the propaganda of higher rates of fire/faster recharge/lighter trigger/pigs flying, but quickly discovered they wasted $42 on a little bit of brass that either doesn't even do what the package said it would, or created problems they didn't have before, or the silly thing made no performance upgrade over stock parts what-so-ever.

But if you REALLY want to throw away your money at www.bbtpaintball.com , then that's your choice.....

[MoserMan]

i've read reviews that totally contradict that
hypersnyper seemed to find a solution to an appearent common ZValve problem and got his classic valve to work at nearly retro standard

[Shaft]

Originally posted by MoserMan
i've read reviews that totally contradict that
hypersnyper seemed to find a solution to an appearent common ZValve problem and got his classic valve to work at nearly retro standard

Army is right. I have a Z-Valve sitting right here - in its original packaging. It did nothing that my retro valve does.
I actually refused to sell this to AO members because of what a rip off it is.

[MoserMan]

ok thx guys, I understand your just trying to prevent someone from getting ripped off.

[M-a-s-sDriver]

Beyond the Hype

Here is what you can expect from a Z-valve:
Lighter trigger pull.
Shorter trigger pull.
Some RT like "reactiveness", but not nearly as pronounced as the real RT.
Reliablity. I used to have to replace on-off o-rings on occasion. I have never replaced the o-rings on the Z-valve since I have had it, nor have I needed to replace the power-tube o-ring that came with the valve.
Virtual elimination of shortstroking.
The best place to buy one is from Terry at G3PB.com. He only takes your order over the phone and will tell you that the Z has not worked for everyone, problably due to machining differences in either the Mag or the valve.
I use mine with a gutted Reg, and a Benchmark double trigger frame with some overtravel stops.(Soon to be Intelliframe)
For those of you that want to use your Z-valve and are having trouble with it, try switching to a larger p-tube spacer. This usually fixes the leaking problem with the ones I have worked on. There also seems to be a misconception that the trigger rod can be backed out more with the Z, and that causes it's own problems, mainly not letting the on-off return to position and making the Mag "stick".
Personnally, I think it is the best $42 you can spend on your Mag. It totally changed the feel of my trigger, from a "snap" to more of a fast roll. I can't wait to get the new frame on the gun with a Super-bolt.
By the way, anyone that wants to Rip me off by selling me thier Z-valve, just e-mail me.
Brent Jackson, PFB.

[Bartleby]

my understanding is that it's by the luck of the draw. some people praise it on its effectivness and others have nothing but problems. really it's just a risk i'd rather not take. but i think terry has them at g3. not sure if he carries them anymore.