XMags and EMags can still be made

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • tyrion2323
    Euroball=goodness
    • Dec 2002
    • 1654

    #1

    XMags and EMags can still be made

    Hey guys,

    Just a thought here -

    The US Patent that SP has only pertains to American Commerce. If, say, AGDE continued to make XMags and EMags, SP couldn't go after them unless AGDE was selling directly to US customers.

    Why not just sell them to a European store which could then sell the markers to Americans without the threat of being sued?

    Jacob
    My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
    Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball
  • Brophog
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 346

    #2
    Because, as soon as it is sold in America, it becomes American Commerce.

    Comment

    • edweird
      IP lawsuits > innovation
      • Dec 2001
      • 1859

      #3
      wtf I swear if I have to repeat my self one more time im gonna 'splode

      brb with lazy linked or cut/pasted answer to this... yeesh

      not gonna type this again tonight

      Originally posted by edweird
      yeesh

      This always helps

      anyhow... the E lines are way outta date and in need of updateing... so in leiu of the Smart Parts marauding AGD decided its the perfect time to revamp the lines by selling off the current stock and entering a year of Research and Development.

      the reason the Xmag hit the chopping block stems from the fact it was never designed to be a full mass production marker... and is frankly not worth the small profit in the amount of problems that the elete line demands. (stupid anno problems... slow production of the bodys... high cost incured by producing such a marker body overseas)
      AGDE has taken a job to run the National Paintball Europe distribution center. They will still distribute AGD's products but making bodies is not high on the list...

      So the low amount of cash they make from milling the Xmag body dont justify the problems.

      In anycase... why bother making an out of date product? Join the legion of us awaiting a new and improved AGD flagship marker that is about 13 months over the horizon
      Last edited by edweird; 03-04-2004, 03:03 AM.

      AFTICA 4 Life! the low rent (unsponsored) AGD team at IAO
      Team Sandbaggers: 2k4 Texball Champs of the world!

      SFL Emag
      RTP abomination
      Sydarm + scenario project VM-68 to be featured later.

      Comment

      • Jaasper
        Registered User
        • Aug 2003
        • 113

        #4
        Hey Ed,


        -Jaasper
        -=*Proud Owner of a 68MicroMag.*=-
        The Brotherhood Scenario Paintball Team
        MicroMag: GFX002412
        Tac-One: VV04062
        http://www.brotherhoodpaintball.org

        Comment

        • wyn1370
          ...--...
          • Feb 2001
          • 3821

          #5
          Originally posted by edweird
          a new and improved AGD flagship marker that is about 13 months over the horizon
          after conversion rate should be about 5 years

          btw I love the beer mug
          You are the Wormtongue of AO.~bofh

          Comment

          • Creative Mayhem
            AO's OFFICIAL CANUCK
            • Apr 2002
            • 3633

            #6
            mmmm beeer



            Owner:Purple People Eater - AFTICA XMAG
            Data Drops Tunamart Havoc_Online TheMagSmith Deadlywind LoadSM5Graphics

            Comment

            • Jack & Coke
              TUNAMAX No. 1
              • Jul 2002
              • 2644

              #7
              ...any takes on how long the waiting list will be this time?

              Comment

              • fire1811
                Firefighter
                • Nov 2002
                • 4930

                #8
                Bueller......................
                "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                Alway Remember *343*

                Si vis pacem, para bellum

                Comment

                • edweird
                  IP lawsuits > innovation
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 1859

                  #9
                  my guess is no preorders...

                  worst thing evar

                  AFTICA 4 Life! the low rent (unsponsored) AGD team at IAO
                  Team Sandbaggers: 2k4 Texball Champs of the world!

                  SFL Emag
                  RTP abomination
                  Sydarm + scenario project VM-68 to be featured later.

                  Comment

                  • Wes Janson
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 304

                    #10
                    Who cares if it's out of date, if people still want it? Do you really think most guns currently being made are cutting-edge? \sarcasm The point is that alot of people would like to own one, and now they may not be able to get one. The market is still there.
                    Audentes Fortuna Juvats-Fortune Favors The Bold

                    Blue-Gold Minimag Boy

                    Comment

                    • RoadDawg
                      Degeneration X is back
                      • May 2001
                      • 4023

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jack & Coke
                      ...any takes on how long the waiting list will be this time?
                      My guess that if it's made locally they won't have a waiting list. The fact it took time to get the bodies from Europe to here is why the waiting list was needed. Anyways *now entering a joke*** Why doesn't AGD make a kit? ***end of joke**
                      Sorry, I'm old

                      Comment

                      • edweird
                        IP lawsuits > innovation
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 1859

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wes Janson
                        Who cares if it's out of date, if people still want it? Do you really think most guns currently being made are cutting-edge? \sarcasm The point is that alot of people would like to own one, and now they may not be able to get one. The market is still there.
                        Then buy it used or peice it together from replacement parts. Or /gasp buy a ULT and head over to centerflag and get a hyperframe.

                        Yes it is gonna be a long 13-15 months but im sure that we will see a new frame that exploits the advantages of the ULT, LVL10'd, Xvalve... and will have all types of room for whatever crazyness that Miscue wants to program for the high memory chip they will obviously put in it.

                        AFTICA 4 Life! the low rent (unsponsored) AGD team at IAO
                        Team Sandbaggers: 2k4 Texball Champs of the world!

                        SFL Emag
                        RTP abomination
                        Sydarm + scenario project VM-68 to be featured later.

                        Comment

                        • tyrion2323
                          Euroball=goodness
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1654

                          #13
                          Originally posted by edweird


                          Then buy it used or peice it together from replacement parts. Or /gasp buy a ULT and head over to centerflag and get a hyperframe.

                          Yes it is gonna be a long 13-15 months but im sure that we will see a new frame that exploits the advantages of the ULT, LVL10'd, Xvalve... and will have all types of room for whatever crazyness that Miscue wants to program for the high memory chip they will obviously put in it.
                          First off, the XMag is not out of date.

                          Let's see:

                          26 bps...top of the line
                          Mech anti chop system...top of the line
                          ACE system...top of the line
                          Light Weight/nice milling/anodizing...top of the line

                          I would never get a Hyperframe after hearing about CF's horrible quality control and customer service.
                          My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
                          Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball

                          Comment

                          • chizle97
                            Save the Empire!
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 647

                            #14
                            I think my heads about to explode
                            DAMN THE MAN! SAVE THE EMPIRE!!!
                            --------(S.P.)---------(AGD)
                            classic "steel monstrosity"
                            GWAR Slave #1501
                            (UN)Official AO Prankster

                            Comment

                            • edweird
                              IP lawsuits > innovation
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 1859

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tyrion2323
                              First off, the XMag is not out of date.
                              Its not technicly the Xmag that is out of date...

                              its the Emag hardware that is...

                              and 26 bps is the advertised cyclic rate of the valve, not the cyclic rate of the Emag frame. Therefore an update is required to catch the Emag frame up to the advances of the AGD valve system

                              same thing ive been preaching forever.

                              AFTICA 4 Life! the low rent (unsponsored) AGD team at IAO
                              Team Sandbaggers: 2k4 Texball Champs of the world!

                              SFL Emag
                              RTP abomination
                              Sydarm + scenario project VM-68 to be featured later.

                              Comment

                              Working...