How to know you're an "Old School" player

[Lee]

"Lee has offered to help with reffing."

i'll do whatever i can to asisst. just lmk.

[rabidchihauhau]

other things

I'll be devoting a web site to the retroball effort and, at virtually the same time, I will be opening up a cafepress site to support it with sales of retroball logo gear which means:

I need a volunteer logo designer (rights to the artwork must transfer to the organization, credit will be attributed, once things are established and IF things are working, we will then establish a royalty payment, but no promises on that score)


PS - no reason why we can't have multiple designs...

I also need a volunteer website maintainer; credit will be given, registration fees and hosting fees will be paid for by me. My fiance is a really good webwench, but she's got her hands full right now; she'll help, but we need someone who can do the daily grind stuff. Again, IF things work, sometime in the future we'll discuss compensation, but for now it will be a labor of love on the volunteer's part.

Everything I Ever Needed to Know About Paintball, I Learned in Old Skool.....

or

Top Ten Reasons to Play Retroball

how about a few entries for those? We'll put them on the coffeemugs.

I would also like to request a formal 'sign up' from each and every individual who has expressed interest and is willing to, at the very least, try and enter a team at the event, and/or do volunteer work. Please send an email to [email protected] and state your full name, give me a mailing address and a phone number, make sure the return email address is good, put Retroball in the subject and briefly state in the body of the email what your interest is - such as volunteer, team captain, interested player, etc.

One of the things the website will focus on is putting pump players from the same regions together with each other.

Since its easier (and only because its easier), mailings and such from this will be on an opt-out basis (in other words, if you send me an email, you will be added to the contact list and will receive emails and etc). If at some time in the future you wish to no longer be included, you will need to contact me again and tell me that - otherwise I'll keep on spamming you (lol).

More stuff: can someone put together a list of companies that currently manufacture pump guns - or who used to manufacture pump guns - who are still in the paintball industry. Do a little homework, please.

Next step - demonstrating that there is a market for this. I need to hear from everyone who has the slightest interest - be it watching, playing, talking about, collecting, whatever. Numbers is the game here. Get in touch with everyone you know who is even slightly pump-oriented, give them the email address - [email protected] - and have them send me an email.

I'll be using that information to gather some advertising support.

[rabidchihauhau]

more

you know you're old skool when you can say you've had to run out of cover to retrieve the barrel you just shot off of your gun....

[FirePro84]

wow, i'm gonna have to save all these...hehe

[magmonkey]

we have been building the missing pum mag parts for about a year.

if anybody has any hard to find parts they need re made shoot us an email to [email protected]

Alan
Destructive Customs

[rabidchihauhau]

Beginning Details - time frame & location

Ok, so here goes the jump off the cliff:

we're looking at a September time frame for the RetroBall event.

We need enough time to get this thing into print and to spread the word, but not so much lead time that people lose interest and enthusiasm, and 6 months seems to be a reasonable compromise. I've put events together in less time (wasn't happy with it), so I know it can be done, but I wouldn't want to try on a shorter time frame, and later in the year would cut down on possible venues and really starts to run into scheduling conflicts with all kinds of other events. So there you go - September time frame.

We're looking at venues: central part of the country is preferred (for travel purposes, make it as inexpensive as possible for the largest number of people...)

The venue ought to have the following:

30 minutes or less travel time to a national airport
old growth forest with rolling terrain
6+ decent-sized woods fields
1 or more speedball/concept field
reasonable rate hotels - with room availability of approximately 150+ rooms or more
a hotel either next to or within walking distance of the playing site (this is 'like to have', not mandatory) - or a hotel with woods next to it that can be converted into playing fields

If you would like to suggest a venue that meets most or all of the above requirements, please do so.

[rabidchihauhau]

Beginning Details - events

We'd like to generate as much participation from players as possible. To start that off, we want the players to help us decide what events to host. We'll take all the suggestions you want to make, put together a list and then ask players who want to attend which of those events they want to play in. The events with attendance will be held.

Our intention is to have the event consist of several different activities, with scheduling such that you will be able to participate in multiple activities.

1. Call for suggestions of activities

2. List so far:

true stock class (rock-n-cock, 12-gram only, tilt-feed only)
modified stock class (stick feeds, direct feeds, autogriggers, 12-gram only)
tournament pump gun (ca allowed, 45-60 min game, large fields)
pump speedball
old timers game (for people who actually played this when it was the only paintball around)
multi-hour big game
open play (pumps only)

team size for any of the above - 5, 7, 10, 12 or 15

Please add to this list.

[rabidchihauhau]

announcements

I've been hearing from old skool pump players all day long - some folks who I haven't heard from in almost 15 years.

This thing is beginning to grow.

Please - if you are from an old skool team - get in touch with your old teammates and let them know.

I've got old time 15 man teams talking about getting back together again, I've got one industry publication already agreeing to support it, and I have a tentative AND amazing offer from a field that knows all about supporting pump play.

This is now officially going to happen.

[billmi]

Re: location...

Spacecoast Paintball in Titusville, FL fits everything but the walking distance to the hotel. But there is one just a couple of miles away, and plenty more within 15 minutes drive.

30 minutes from Orlando International Airport which is one of the most affordable air destinations in the US...

Rolling terrain wooded fields, as well as speedball fields...

Plus consider the geek factor. Touring Kennedy Space Center is an easy add on for anyone making the trip, it's basically on the other side of the freeway from the field (OK, a little further, but not much.)

[rabidchihauhau]

news & updates

I've been hearing from lots of old skool guys - calling me all day. There is a lot of interest.

I put out feelers to several fields and I have a tentative committment for the perfect facility.

In response to Bill's suggestion of spacecoast - I have had them under consideration as a 'local' location, in the event that things needed to be local, rather than national.

They do have a great park and an event there would definately be a good one, but for now, I'm going to run with the field I've already mentioned.

We're working on details right now, they've promised support and then some.

So - we're definately looking at september and we may already have a field.

[Tyger]

Groovy.

I'll start things on my end as well. Nero, I hope you're up for a roadtrip. Crack out the Tigerstripes.

Unrelated, do you think we can con TK into coming? I know he's got that REALLY old school "Tiger Stripe" jumpsuit... I think we cold even scrape together a pump mag...

-Tyger

[magmonkey]

if will get him there we will bring a couple extra pump mags

[rabidchihauhau]

tk coming

I've already got some 'celebs' in mind - adding tom would be like putting little sugar flowers on the icing....

Tom is more than welcome: if we end up having celeb events, he will be vetted into that position - with one proviso:

Tom is NOT allowed to introduce any new tech at the event - no strange scuba-thingies on the back, no bizarre looking stocks, no remote-controlled paintball drones, no paintball guns that compress their own gas and mold their own plastic paintballs right in the breech and fire at vulcan-like rpms, nothing called a panther anything - in fact, I think he'll have to play naked if we want to be absolutely sure that he's not going to start a new tech revolution at this event... I remember the last two times it happend, and BOTH times it cost me money!

So far as other celebs go - I've been told by one well known former pumper and industry giant that he is talking to at least two other former pump players and now industry giants (who he believes will be very interested) and I've yet to start making phone calls on that score, so I'm pretty sure we can count on at least a few being there.

Which brings me to Paintball Industry Giants - or P.I.G.s for short.

I put together a list several years ago of the 100 people who I thought deserved to be on the PIG list. I created the list kind of like Time magazine's man-of-the-year issue: in other words, the good and the bad aren't measured, simply the impact and influence.

I'm sure some of you can imagine some of the names on that list.

Well, I'm pretty sure its time to really recognize achievement in the paintball industry (we used to do that kind of thing - PaintCheck magazine's annual awards, PCRI's awards, The Sargie Awards, etc, but they've fallen out of favor), so I think one of the events at RetroBall will be the awarding of the first annual P.I.G. Awards (sorry Dawn and Bill - but think about it this way; W.A.R.P.I.G. can now stand for We ARe Paintball Industry Giants...).

We'll award 100 to 250 Piggies at Retroball, in order to catch up for the past 23 years, and then award several each year thereafter.

Categories would include things like 'team', 'player', 'company', 'ambassador' 'inventor', 'general contribution to the industry', and 'effecting change in the industry'.

You guys add categories and nominees.

Obvious candidates for the 'retro' PIG awards would be people like Bob Gaines, Hayes Noel, Gurnsey, Caleb Strong, Jeff Perlmutter, Bob Long, Jessica Sparks, Ray Gong, Randy Kamiya, Diane Howe, Ross Alexander, Paul Fogel, the Henrys, Claudia Welikson, Rick Fairbanks, Glen Palmer, Spud Jackson, Albert Schilling, Gino Postorivo, Jim Lively, Jim Anderson, the guy who created NAPRA who's name I forget, Debra Dion, The guy who published Frontline magazine, Ken Gilder, Guy Cooper, Jerry Braun, Steve Cantrell, Keith Idema, Al Iba, Nicky West, the Scherer who invented rotary dies, Fast Eddie, the first guy who wiped a hit, Dave Bell, Jim Rice, the Gardner brothers, and - did you think I would forget? - Tom Kaye and Budd Orr.

Some people have accused me of writing overly long posts, so I'lls top now.

[Got_Paint]

because I wouldn't be able to make it there I would donate money or a prize in the future.

[AGD]

I take it Rabid is Steve Davidson ( the only guy I know who remembers barrels shooting off). Lets start a new thread about this and I will sticky it. This is too far down to get the proper attention. I stuck the other thread for time being. Make sure its well after Shatnerball.

AGD