How to know you're an "Old School" player

[Got_Paint]

I've played 15 on 15 pump games, but not tourney,

check out

http://www.paintmagazine.com/cgi-bin/cutecast/cutecast.pl?forum=8&thread=11407

Everyone close to Sacramento should come down, its all free, held once a month, we usually have about 30 people show up.

[adam shannon]

Originally posted by Vanced
Knew how to save paint by scaring the new kids by turning your gun on the side and shooting air when you made your move.

more like knew how to do that on your smg-60 to sucker the oponents into thinking your out so they would rush you...then giving them 20 from the right toe to the left shoulder because that was real recoil not the mil of movement kids whine about now.

if you remember when every player carried either a kaBar or bayonett on their alice gear...and some of them were crazy enough to try and pull it out if you got cought wiping.

[adam shannon]

Originally posted by Jackel411
- When this game was actually inovative , and people who made the sport grow were not trying to collapse in from the inside out and when the game actually meant something to you.. just not another excuse to go shoot some paint and win something... it was bonding and comradery ( Uhh man I spelled that wrong ).

thats why the people who know the true meaning of AO travel halfway across the country just to hang with TK for 1 day then fly home.

[badinfo]

Originally posted by Vanced
Ahh the SMG's ... I remember the one that Dale use to hang on the wall at BOA barrels and being amazed by it and wondering if that was the future of the game...

The pump game is a differnt game... It's like going back to the golf course after a round of Putt-Putt...Or digging out the old 8bit NES and putting the online PS2 or X-Box away...and its is so much fun when it is played just for the love of the game...

and I do love it.. I still own my Splatmaster and a SL-68 ...

And still lucky enough to play more Rec/Woods ball than anything on a manicured speedball/air/X-Ball field...

But even then with the woods full all the sweet spoting full auto RT-98's and A5s and the kids with WAS'd Whatevers out there or even a day that happens to drawl a bunch of newbies with rentals or wall-mart warriors... I have been known to put the Mags down or loan it to one of my friends with a rental and grab the pump and head out... to just have a fun time... I suggest if you get the chance and are able to try it...one kill of a guy with a high end marker with a pump and you just get so much satisfcation and the stories that get told and keep getting told over and over again... that is why a lot of us starting playing this game anyway... just to brag about shooting one of our friends right?

There is just so much to be said for it... even it is just to make myself smile, get a few laughs for myself and thoose watching, and to pretend to be that little kid again running around in the woods even before the guns shot paint and it was just a good shout of BANG! your dead...

Nice post!! Well put sir, well put!

[rabidchihauhau]

gotchya guns - lol - a short sighted effort to rope the 'youth' into playing paintball (back when the average player age was like 35 to 55 or something)

'hey, there's a team playing with semi-autos, lets go check it out.' 'what are those things?' 'you know the guy that makes the six pak? this is his new semi-auto' 'hey, this thing actually gets decent range...' (paraphrased from a conversation between Swarm and Werewolves at the 1989 NA RP Scherer Championship)

misguided product introduction: flip-top caps for ten round tubes, introduced the same year semi-autos started coming out

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I'd be interested in exploring the possibilities of a woodsball pump only event (not strictly stock, but that's a possibility also) Maybe a 'retro-tournament' with the same rules and etc as the first national open tournaments. Not played for seriousness - but for the love of the competition. (If you don't have 15 guys, we'll put people together; prizes along the lines of a carton of electrical tape, a box of hoseclamps, ten feet of 3/4" pvc pipe, box of cigar tubes, etc).

I know I can swing a venue, and I know I can get it for BYOP or a really decent case price - but to do it right would require scheduling something for like 18 to 24 months from now: is it possible to sustain and build the interest over that time, or is this one of those things that would be 'nice' but will never happen?

Expenses? the venue (minor), support (fill station, chrono, etc, and folks to run it (refs and staffing)

Let me know and I'll start the Retro-Ball event up.

[ogre55]

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau
how many old timer 15 man, 12-gram and pump team players are there still out there?

how many still have their pump guns?

how many would be SERIOUS about getting together somewhere, say in two years time, to play paintball the way it was meant to be played?

How many new skool guys would be interested?

Actually stock and pump play is still alive and well, at least in the northeast. Strategy Plus in CT has stock only days where the fields are measured in acres rather than yards. Go to www.strategyplus.com for more info.

There is a dedicated pump-only league in Texas. Some of the most competetive stock teams are out of Southern California.

There are several boards devoted to stock and pump play. Even here in NYC and the surrounding environs there has been much talk of stock and/or pump days at severeal prominent fields.

Ogre

[ogre55]

Re: Pump...

Originally posted by SMG
If there were enough people I think I would play pump all the time. I think people assume that its not a fast paced game or that there is not enough fire power to keep it interesting. In my opinion, its more fun because there is more player movement and action. I would love the idea of cutting my paint consumption in half. :)

Whenever anyone says that pump games are slow, invite them to check out some of the Pan/Am stock games on PigTV. Games lasting two-minutes were consider slow and the games were all about movement rather than firepower.

Ogre

[rabidchihauhau]

not that far gone yet

I'm not that far out of it that I'm unaware of stock class play and pump play taking place fairly regularly in various environs.

A dedicated group of locals was NOT what I was referring to.

I was talking about the possibility of having an EVENT that was dedicated to what I am now calling Retro-Ball; 4+ LARGE woods fields, referees, honest-to-goodness teams of 15-17 players (substitutes) dual flag games scheduled to last an hour each, and vendors in a trade show selling gear dedicated to pump play - folks like CCI, LAPCO, ActionMarkers, etc.

We'll get charlie holton out there to sell all the stuff he's accumulated over the years, guaranteed to come up with parts for things you probably never even heard of.

A Retro Ball Weekend - 3 days; 15 player pump, stock class (7 player?, 5 player?) and top gun contest.

Hey - when was the last time you went to a tournament and only had to buy 5 cases of paint?

When was the last time you played in a competition where spending 20 minutes looking for the other team didn't mean they weren't on the field?

I've got plenty of experience running large events (specifically paintball tournaments with 100+ teams) - I have plenty of friends who can help make this happen (as in venues across the country) and I think a low-key, pump tournament would be of interest to a lot of industry types.

NOT a weekend of playing with 20 or so friends. An EVENT.

Retro Ball - will it happen?

[Quickling]

Also too there is the EMR pump only weekend this year, Aug 24-25th I believe.

[Gunslinger-ActionBob]

We're putting together a pump big game at EMR in August this year FWIW

[DeerChaser]

If I wanted a new pump, which one should I get?

[ogre55]

Re: not that far gone yet

Originally posted by rabidchihauhau
I'm not that far out of it that I'm unaware of stock class play and pump play taking place fairly regularly in various environs.

A dedicated group of locals was NOT what I was referring to.

I was talking about the possibility of having an EVENT that was dedicated to what I am now calling Retro-Ball; 4+ LARGE woods fields, referees, honest-to-goodness teams of 15-17 players (substitutes) dual flag games scheduled to last an hour each, and vendors in a trade show selling gear dedicated to pump play - folks like CCI, LAPCO, ActionMarkers, etc.

We'll get charlie holton out there to sell all the stuff he's accumulated over the years, guaranteed to come up with parts for things you probably never even heard of.

A Retro Ball Weekend - 3 days; 15 player pump, stock class (7 player?, 5 player?) and top gun contest.

Hey - when was the last time you went to a tournament and only had to buy 5 cases of paint?

When was the last time you played in a competition where spending 20 minutes looking for the other team didn't mean they weren't on the field?

I've got plenty of experience running large events (specifically paintball tournaments with 100+ teams) - I have plenty of friends who can help make this happen (as in venues across the country) and I think a low-key, pump tournament would be of interest to a lot of industry types.

NOT a weekend of playing with 20 or so friends. An EVENT.

Retro Ball - will it happen?

If this thing were to become a reality, I know that I would love to attend such an event.

Ogre

[krafty]

I forgot about one thing...

You're old school if you've got a TIP number (or you know what a TIP number is). Mine's 1550. :)

[GoatBoy]

I'm not quite as old school as a lot of you here, but I have to say, I'm really enjoying this thread.


Since you guys are super oldtimers, let me ask you... Do you have websites or photo repositories of really old stuff? I love looking at really old paintball pictures. I've done some searching, and most of the stuff I find is in like... well, warpig has some really, really old stuff, and the vm68 owner's group... Maybe some sort of oldtimer's photo album?

[badinfo]

Originally posted by DeerChaser
If I wanted a new pump, which one should I get?

I recently picked up a Phantom and am very happy with it. Shoots nice and pretty easy to swap configurations with a few extra parts from CCI


Goatboy, check out www.mcarterbrown.com and there is a link there to the paintball museum online