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  • pito189
    viking
    • Oct 2001
    • 2093

    #16
    Originally posted by Tobe2be
    sounds to me that your battery is dead. that happens to me when i have a dead battery
    I wish it was that.

    Talking to Havoc now, maybe he can figure it out.
    Old School Baller
    Have a Viking, still miss my X-Mag

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    • Kevmaster
      Owners Group Div: Director
      • Oct 2001
      • 5475

      #17
      Originally posted by pito189
      Alright, just shooting the gun in E with the grip off.

      Starting shooting the gun slowly, gun shoots fine.

      Shoot pulling faster, gun starts not shooting on some pulls. When it doesnt shoot, there is no click, but there is a very slight motion of the plunger as it jumps a tiny amount.

      Now at this point if I switch it over to manual and shoot, and then switch it back to E, it will either shoot or still not shoot. It varies.

      I'm at a loss
      my PTP e-mag did much the same back in the day. I sent it to AGD and they fixed her up for it. Not exactly sure what they did, but i know it involved the sear pin (triger pin) and plunger. Sorry I can't be more of a help on that.

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      • oldsoldier
        just choke yourself out!!!
        • Feb 2002
        • 2459

        #18
        Mine does the exact same thing! I am beginning to think it may be 3.2, as it seems people with this upgrade experience it. My solution was to shoot it in hybrid..granted, it isnt really a "fix"..but, I dont skip[ shots anymore. It isnt the ground screw, or the noid...
        X-mag #10. Nuff said.

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        • phantomhitman
          ao's official bad guy
          • Oct 2003
          • 1841

          #19
          i cannot help you either, but it seems quite a few people (around 5 or so) are having the same issues you are with their xmag. i read about a few of them in a post last week i believe. try checking the past posts back to page 3 or 4, maybe they found an answer?! good luck.
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          • BradPalooza
            Registered User
            • May 2001
            • 377

            #20
            See if it does it with the breech module removed. It may be the bolt binding up in the breech because of misalignment. Mine had that problem.
            -Brad
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            • Bolter
              Hardcore casual
              • May 2003
              • 1223

              #21
              WHOA Stop ripping all the internals out of your gun.

              It sounds like the eye isn't seeing the ball all the time, like you need to turn it a quarter turn. Check it. I have used paint where its fine for a bit of the day, but then I start skipping shots, and I just have to turn the eye a bit.

              I always check the eye against paint at the beginningof the day.


              And I always leave my battery on charge over night, a car journey is not going to cut it.
              Bolter
              Storm Uk

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              • BlackVCG
                Grubby Owner

                • Oct 2000
                • 4956

                #22
                Just for the sake of it, take the valve out and then take out the on/off assembly. You should have a black o-ring in the center and a clearish/yellow o-ring around that.
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                • Ghost24
                  GO TERPS!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 85

                  #23
                  Pito turn the eye off and see if it fires right. If not, check your ground wire in the battery. I was having the same issues you were having. RobAGD put in one of his battery and it worked fine. The ground wire for the battery contact was not well gounded (connected). Rob soldered the contact and the problem was solve. Good Luck.


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                  • pito189
                    viking
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 2093

                    #24
                    Kevmaster, I didn't start having the problem until I got it back from AGD.

                    Bolter, I don't ever use the eye, it's a pain in the arse to setup, and with level 10, I don't find it worth the time. Also it's pretty much worthless IMHO as it's not a break beam eye.

                    BlackVCG, I have all the o-rings in.

                    Havoc and I went through it last night, and we figured it might be the plunger length, I need to find some calipers to work with though.


                    I have to rustle up some calipers, and see how that goes.
                    Old School Baller
                    Have a Viking, still miss my X-Mag

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                    • Dayspring
                      aka- The Day Wang

                      • May 2001
                      • 9664

                      #25
                      Check your on/off pin assembly & orings. I found that mine tend to dry out quite a bit and they get sticky. Too much friction.

                      If you haven't done so, take the on/off assembly out, lube the orings inside the brass part and make sure the quad oring & white oring are nice and oiled too.

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                      • xrancid_milkx

                        #26
                        I've had this same problem with my Morlocked E-Mag for quite some time now. It will work fine in Manual mode, but once I go into E it won't shoot. The shots will register, but the marker won't shoot barely any of the shots. I'll put it on burst mode of 15 shots, and it *may* shoot 2 or 3 times, but all 15 shots register.

                        I've checked the plunger length, and sear lengths, and have the proper o-rings, and still can't figure out why it won't work.

                        I just assumed it was my solenoid dying or dead, and was saving up for a AGD board replacement and solenoid, but it looks like those may not be the problem...

                        I'm going to go back again and re-check all the lengths.

                        The solenoid plunger is 3.005" right? What about everything else?

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                        • funkmunky56
                          open for interpretation!!!
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 271

                          #27
                          Did you bother checking the alignment of the solenoid plunger clevis assy on the sear like I mentioned?? Seriously, if that's off at ALL, it binds on the solenoid. and, when you switch it to mech mode, it FORCES the plunger down, straightening it a lil bit, so it'll shoot for a little while again on e mode. But then , things that are off tend to get more off over time, and it starts binding again. so you gotta switch to mech mode, force it again, and start the whole process over...

                          it sucks. but fixing that was really satisfying.
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                          • BajaBoy
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2158

                            #28
                            dont know if anyone said it already but i think i know the problem... when it stops shooting in E mode look at the noid, it drifts over and locks up untill you either fire it in mech or push it in yourself
                            RT
                            Ace'd Emag (sold)
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                            • pito189
                              viking
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 2093

                              #29
                              xrancid_milkx the plunger length should be 3.008"

                              funkmunky56 it all appears aligned to me. There are no bends in the entire sear, plunger.. assembly.

                              BajaBoy, the solenoid moves a very slight amount, I'm talking maybe a 1/16 of an inch no more than that though.
                              Old School Baller
                              Have a Viking, still miss my X-Mag

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                              • Mindflux
                                Are you e-wheat?
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 861

                                #30
                                Originally posted by pito189
                                xrancid_milkx the plunger length should be 3.008"

                                E-Mag:

                                On/Off pin: .712" w/ brass top and double o-ring top.
                                .725" w/ aluminum top and single o-ring top.

                                Trigger Rod: 2.125"

                                Solenoid Plunger Rod: 3.005"

                                Right from the Tolerance Thread in the tech forum.
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