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  • viper_ssc
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 386

    #1

    Funny hammerhead conversation

    I kept telling people dont buy the hammerhead because its a waste of money and some guy gets mad at me because of it.


    Chris wrote:
    Hello, i keep seeing you all over paintball.com forums and i see you keep making fun of the hammerhead barrel and saying its a waste of money, have you even shot a hammerhead barrel? have you compared them to any other barrel? because i have and i have pictures to prove the hammerhead barrel is better then a freak or anything else you want to put it up against. dont take this email in the wrong way, im not trying to insult you or anything in that manner, im just trying to prove to you hammerhead barrels are not the garbage you keep telling people it is! If you would like to see hammerhead vs freak pictures let me know or go to my site www.hammerheadpaintballdirect.com and go to about hammerhead/article reviews


    In a message dated 3/17/2004 2:15:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

    Im never said that they were junk or making fun of them I just dont want some noob to be lied to about hammerheads being more accurate because they arn't. They are just as accurate as any other barrel with a good paint-barrel match. Yes I have tried the hammerhead barrel and the freak and I came to conclude they were same accuracy as each other.Do you have any data to support your claim. Well I have data to support mine http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...hlight=rifling
    Tom Kaye has proven that rifling has no effect on a paintball due to the liquid fill inside. If you still dont believe me then go to automags.org and try to prove that they are more accurate. Like I said before I dont want some noob wasting there money on a barrel that is all hype.


    [email protected] wrote: We have tested a hammerhead vs all the barrels out there including the freak. we go to paintball competitions and allow people to test our barrel vs whatever they got and everyone who tries it loves it. i do have an article with pictures detailing hammerhead vs a freak barrel. at 50 100 and 150 yards and hammerhead does better then a freak. the only thing i do admit to you is hammerhead barrels are a bit pricy for what they are, thats why i sell them a lot cheaper then EVERYONE ELSE from barrel and fin kit from $125.00


    word document with pictures of hammerhead vs freak
    The_HammerHead_Barrel.doc

    my website with the article link on it
    HAMMERHEAD PAINTBALL DIRECT

    if you have shot a hammerhead then you do know how well it shoots, so why do you tell everyone not to get it? it does shoot well and the barrel being a hype is just your opinion. Please understand it took a long time to perfect rifling on a paintball barrel and i know you dont know the specs nor have proof that the rifling doesnt make a difference. i am almost positive you heard this from someone and just took it upon yourself to determine that 9 years of testing and retesting and remodeling the barrel is all a hype.

    -Chris
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    [email protected] writes:
    Did you even care to click the link and read all the posts
    there? You say i have no proof that rifling has doesnt have a effect on a paintball? Heres another thread sorry most of them dont have to do with rifling but some do http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=34429 if you actually care to read them then you'll see that it doesnt have an effect on a paintball. Go to www.automags.org and post there asking them about rifling and the hammerhead. Like i said before I have tested the hammerhead and freak and they about the same. By the pictures that are there there is so little difference in the accuarcy it wont be worth all that extra money. So im done argueing I have given more than enough data to support my claim


    do you even play paintball? a little bit more acurate is alot in an actual game, how many times have you shot and you were an inch from hitting someone, lots right? well the hammerhead would of hit that target, so a little difference does count. and just because you may be tight on money and feel 125 dollars is a lot of money, a real paintball enthusiast knows that paintball is an expensive sport and 125 for a barrel that can shoot an 11inch target 100 yards away is a bargain. so stop talking so much garbage about hammerhead because its a multi-million dollar company FOR A REASON!!!!!!! and you are an internet junkie **he said a bad word** that 125 is a lot of money for a reason aswell

    I tried to reply to him but he has blocked email from me or something.
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  • RingOfScale
    Americanized Thai Pancake
    • Sep 2003
    • 898

    #2
    personally, i think you were both being stupid :P no reason to fight with someone on whether or not one barrel is better then another, if he wants to believe that hammerheads are all that, by all means, let him.

    ( i have no experience with ANY barrels cept a stock piranha barrel, and lapco bigshot, so i have no experiance with the barrels in question. all i am saying, is its stupid to argue with someoen over something like that, when alot of it is probably just personal preferance. )

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    • Head knight of Ni
      Silly K-niggits
      • Mar 2004
      • 1032

      #3
      Barrels are such trivial things. Especially on older bodied Mags. the bottum line is matching. Rifling is not a greatly practicle thing,YET,but we can all agree the best way to get paint on target is a good old fashioned sling shot.
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      • No sKiLLz
        NYX #16
        • Apr 2003
        • 930

        #4
        What a tool. I think it's funny when people don't have common sense. If the control bore is smaller than the tip (as they are in all kits) what difference is rifling going to make? The only reason those things would be accurate is the short control bore. The rifling is a waste.
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        • AGD
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          • Oct 2000
          • 5916

          #5
          Hummm 11" group at 100 yards..... got to get me one of them....

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          • lew
            tres cool
            • Mar 2003
            • 311

            #6
            Originally posted by Head knight of Ni
            but we can all agree the best way to get paint on target is a good old fashioned sling shot.
            case closed!
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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #7
              Originally posted by AGD
              Hummm 11" group at 100 yards..... got to get me one of them....

              AGD
              Please do... please do the controlled tests on them and see if that is real. PS - if it is, PM me first please so I can buy one before AO buys them out.
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              • Morally0Confused
                Registered User
                • Dec 2003
                • 238

                #8
                i wonder if my mag even shoots 100 yards?

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                • Jack & Coke
                  TUNAMAX No. 1
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2644

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No sKiLLz


                  If the control bore is smaller than the tip (as they are in all kits) what difference is rifling going to make? The only reason those things would be accurate is the short control bore. The rifling is a waste.

                  I have not shot a hammerhead, but I have held one in my hands and examined it.

                  Very interesting... the short control bores (the usable ones) are actually larger than the main body rifling section. You can actually feel the difference with your fingers.

                  For sizing comparison, we took some paintballs which could easily pass through the control bore, and put them into the main rifling section. The got stuck and we had to push them through with a battle swab.

                  This is kinda strange because, what use is the control bore if it's actually larger than the main body of the barrel?

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                  • Lee
                    Team Trigger Happy
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 2395

                    #10
                    the only thing in my gear bag thats accurate and effective out to 100 yards is my rather large inventory of harsh language.

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                    • Jack & Coke
                      TUNAMAX No. 1
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2644

                      #11
                      lol!

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                      • Miscue
                        Super Moderator

                        • Oct 2000
                        • 7105

                        #12
                        Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


                        Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


                        The control bore is bigger than the tip? That's uber-silly! I've never examined one closely... I assumed the tip would be bigger like every other barrel. This boggles the mind.

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                        • No sKiLLz
                          NYX #16
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 930

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jack & Coke


                          I have not shot a hammerhead, but I have held one in my hands and examined it.

                          Very interesting... the short control bores (the usable ones) are actually larger than the main body rifling section. You can actually feel the difference with your fingers.

                          For sizing comparison, we took some paintballs which could easily pass through the control bore, and put them into the main rifling section. The got stuck and we had to push them through with a battle swab.

                          This is kinda strange because, what use is the control bore if it's actually larger than the main body of the barrel?

                          OMG even worse! These barrels must be disgustingly inefficient.
                          Miscue - *Banned for: Flaming, disruptive behavior, and overall jackassery* -Brian

                          cphilip - ...And again I am not allowing anyone to use the "well everyone else does it and gets away with it" excuse. Get used to it. Life aint always fair and this ain't no democracy.

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                          • Jack & Coke
                            TUNAMAX No. 1
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2644

                            #14
                            Q, not the "tip" per say, but the main body where the rifling is located.

                            Since the control bore is so short, you can stick you finger through it and feel the ridges of the rifling. Strange design concept indeed.









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                            • Head knight of Ni
                              Silly K-niggits
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 1032

                              #15
                              Thats always gonna have gas efficiency because the reason rifling is doable on real firearms is because the propellant starts as a solid powder and expands through an explosion. But in paintball we use gases so we're basically pushing the paintballs at each other. Rifling however allows space for air to escape around the ball. This means using more air to "push" the ball out making the barrel a gas hog. However it is inovative and intresting I give it a solid 7.1
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