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  • fallout11

    #1

    AGD patents a new hopper

    Yes, that's right kiddies.
    Tom and crew have patented a new hopper design (actually, an update/refinement to their 2000 hopper patent):



    Scroll on down to Figure 3 for the idea.
    Figures 1 & 2 show how it's done presently with most hoppers.....

    The patent was filed in 2001, and approved late last year (2003)

    This design, which straddles the body of the paintball gun, below the barrel, and feeds using a centerline 'conveyor' system, with multiple ball locations to store stacked/queued balls, and is operated by electronic sensors.
    One could see this as a refinement of the warp feed, except with a hopper built in. Just what the doctor asked for!

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    As neat a concept as this is (and I like it!), I feel I have seen this before somewhere.....

    You see, I own an Advanced Tactical Systems (ATS) series marker, which already uses an under the barrel hopper and chain conveyor system to queue and load balls in the chamber.
    Only, it is mechanically operated by the marker's bolt, rather than electronically operated via sensors.

    The 1995/1998 patent for the excellent AT series guns:

    Last edited by Guest; 03-18-2004, 11:27 AM.
  • Halliday
    Level 10
    • Oct 2000
    • 1655

    #2
    Neat. At first I was like, "Wow a conveyer belt." Then "Uh.. a Rev?" Then "Oh cool!"

    Look at it. That could make "blimps" a thing of the past.


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    • phantomhitman
      ao's official bad guy
      • Oct 2003
      • 1841

      #3
      that is a great idea. make the holder below to-or equal to, the barrel. then force feed them up.
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      • Patron God of Pirates
        ~pgop1.0
        • Apr 2002
        • 1196

        #4
        If I'm not mistaken that hopper requires a gun which is (ULP!) bottom feed!!

        Plus it doubles as a rifle style foregrip. People will tell you that is the best for aiming.

        Tom,

        You can put me on the pre-order list now. And throw me on the list for the bottom feeding gun while your at it.

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        • fallout11

          #5
          A small hose section, with a warp-feed style body, or the old powerfeed (in the bottom) would work.

          But yes, a bottom-fed gun (like the ATS series) would be even better.....

          Tom has given several indications that a "revolutionary" new marker design might be in the works....

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          • SlartyBartFast
            The Flying Scotsman
            • Jun 2002
            • 2940

            #6
            Neat idea and I saw th e patent a long time ago.

            but, the best way would be to put the internals of a Warp and Halo in there.

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            • hostage
              Boo-yaah/Mako Fixer
              • Aug 2001
              • 1529

              #7
              lol I was suprised to see my name as one of the posters lol! I vaugly remember making that post.
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              • vf-xx
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                • Nov 2001
                • 3311

                #8
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                • fallout11

                  #9
                  This approach is far superior to the operation/mechanics of a halo and warp.

                  This is a relatively NEW patent.
                  It was only approved in August, 2003 (7 months ago).

                  I am concerned that ATS's prior patent will negate us from ever seeing this as an AGD product (marketed), though.
                  Maybe not.
                  Last edited by Guest; 03-18-2004, 11:31 AM.

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                  • deadeye9
                    The other deadeye.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 323

                    #10
                    It does look alot like the ATS magnum loader:



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                    • fallout11

                      #11
                      That is exactly my point, Deadeye9. =)
                      Nice magnum loader, btw.

                      Now don't get me wrong, the ATS system works magnificently. And if Tom can improve it, and make it work for other guns by means of an electronics/sensor package, more power to him. I'd by one for my mag.

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                      • MicroMiniMe
                        Easy Like Sunday Morning
                        • May 2003
                        • 1213

                        #12
                        Well if Toms intention is to use the direct feed of a HPA tank straight to the valve and allowing the valve/firing components to be reduced in size. This would let the size of the gun still be about the same as it is now with the ability to have a hopper system enshrouding the whole marker being included in that size. It would look like a large feed system with a gripframe on back and a barrel coming out the front, with everything else internalized almost. It might allow the injected carbon fiber parts to be used again internally. There might be little space for color anodized aluminum and back to the days of 'ugly' guns.
                        By I would indeed buy in a hearbeat a gun system that is still compact and relatively lightweight even if its in composite materials in drab colors. Assuming this would have AGD exceptional quality and performance.

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                        • coolcatpete
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1532

                          #13
                          crazyness tom siad hoppers were out of the question
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                            • 421

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                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2302

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