Pumps

[Jig]

hey Tyger a quick question here: how do you like the Nexxed pants? any pockets that are perfect for used 10 round cigar tubes? annnnd what size would you suggest for someone about 5 foot 5 inches? i've heard the sizes run really baggy(which i dont mind) but i've never quite recieved a straight answer about the sizes.

Sparq i saw that Phantom at the PHOG a long time ago and its still among the top 5 in my book of most attractive annoes .

thanks

[Tyger]

Originally posted by Jig
hey Tyger a quick question here: how do you like the Nexxed pants? any pockets that are perfect for used 10 round cigar tubes? annnnd what size would you suggest for someone about 5 foot 5 inches?

I like 'em still. They're not sponsoring the show, but I'll still be using mine. They're probably the most durale pants I've ever used for paintball, next to the Animal pants. Nexed has the advantage of being cooler in summer.

They don't really hold 10 round tubes that well, unfortunately. And buy 'em for yor waist size, the length is MORE than ample.

-Tyger

[Sparq]

Originally posted by Jig
Sparq i saw that Phantom at the PHOG a long time ago and its still among the top 5 in my book of most attractive annoes

Thanks Jig!


Here's a picture of my current setup, as promised. I really n eed to get that tank annodized.

[soccer4minimags]

Couple more questions for you phantom owners. What problems do you guys have with teh stock class feeds. Basically what i'm getting at is do you have feed problems. How is the ball chambered, is it closed bolt. Is it possible for you to chamber a ball and then say you run, can you count on the ball to still be in the breech when you get there, or does it bounce out and you fire a blank shot.
How much do you really have to do what they call rock and cock. I've played with pumps but never with a stock class feed like that. Do you tilt it forwards or backwards. Doesn't that mess up you aim (you'd have to readjust from where you just took that shot from). Or is it not that extreme of a movement and just a slight tilting of a gun.
Thanks for you phantom owners out there for helping me in my decision.

[Spaceman613]

Basically what i'm getting at is do you have feed problems.

Nope, no problems

How is the ball chambered, is it closed bolt.

It's closed bolt, you slightly rock the gun forward a couple degrees (not much, but more when the 15 round tube is closer to empty.

Is it possible for you to chamber a ball and then say you run, can you count on the ball to still be in the breech when you get there, or does it bounce out and you fire a blank shot.

Good paint to barrel match prevents rollout, like on a cocker.

How much do you really have to do what they call rock and cock.

See above, not much, but more when close to empty.

I've played with pumps but never with a stock class feed like that. Do you tilt it forwards or backwards.

Tilt it so the barrel is slightly lower.

Doesn't that mess up you aim (you'd have to readjust from where you just took that shot from).

Not that I notice.


Or is it not that extreme of a movement and just a slight tilting of a gun.

Yep, thats what it is

Thanks for you phantom owners out there for helping me in my decision.

No problem, us pumpers tend to be helpful (with a few exceptions).

[Tyger]

Lotta questions there :

With the exception of the 'Mag pump, Splatmaster and GZ family, all pumps are closed bolt.

If the paint is too small for the barrel, it will roll out. If ou have a good barrel match, however, it won't. And before oyu ask, Lapco, J&J, and Palmers makes Phantom barrels in tiny sizes (PPS makes one wit "Crimps" that hold theball)

You do have to "Rock n Cock", the Phantom tilts forward. Yo get used to it really fast.

As far as the aiming goes, that's part of the point. You need to learn to aim, and aim fast. That's why I have a dog sight on mine. I like having a second opinion before I shoot.

-Tyger

[soccer4minimags]

yeah sorry for that post being a little messy.

I'm not to worried about the paint size and paint rolling out of the breech( I've dealt with cockers for a long time). Have any of you used those detent rings that are on the first page of the phantom site. Wouldn't that prevent forward roll out.

I guess from how you answered it the phantom is closed bolt, so I wouldn't have to worry about the round that is chambered bounceing back up into the stock feed tube right.

thanks for the replys.

[Spaceman613]

detent rings are a help, but a barrel kit is much better.

but, for a budget, the rings will work fine.

[soccer4minimags]

Here is basically what I'm looking at:

--VSC 2011-V-45-22 (still deciding on color)
--All clear parts
--2 barrels, the one it comes with, 11" (or maybe I'll upgrade to 14") plus and 8" one.
--A center feed breech (allows me to use a hopper)

Any recommendations. I will get all this stuff at once so the annodizing will be consistent for all the pieces.

Which phantom barrels do you all own? (stock ones)

[Tyger]

Not a bd Phantom selection. If you can, find some "Nelson springs" so you can adjust the velocity easily. My tock Phantom barrels are 14, which came with the gun, and 8 inch. I find that the 8 incher is great too. I'm using LAPCO's stuff now, which means I can shoot TINY paint, finally.

CCI's stock barrels are good tho, surprisingly. They'e a larger bore, but they're REALLY good.

As far as color... Hey, that's your choice. :)

-Tyger

[tasker89]

I have always leaned towards the Benjamin-Sheridan valved guns (i.e. Enforcer, Sniper, KP3, Palmer, etc.) BTW...anybody know a good online resource for hunting down pumpgun parts?

[soccer4minimags]

How much modifying do you have to do to get stickies to fit the stock 45 grips on a phantom? On bunkerboyz it says "modified dye stickie grips". Is it not a standard 45 frame?

[Chris42050]

Originally posted by Tyger
YEAH! What they said!

Illusion pumps are pretty good, they were obviously made to integrate a lot of aftermarket stuff. Illlusion's down side is that they have no autotrigger. But I like that they convert from SC to D/F so fast. I look at the Phantom as a machine. I've been using mine for... wow... 6 years? Still scares the locals. :P

-Tyger

Ive used just about every class of paintball gun and never needed to autofire with a pump. I think it is worthless. If you try to autofire your aim is so horrbile it does you absolutly no good.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

Originally posted by soccer4minimags
How much modifying do you have to do to get stickies to fit the stock 45 grips on a phantom? On bunkerboyz it says "modified dye stickie grips". Is it not a standard 45 frame?

it shouldnt be too hard. just screw a screw right into the grip and cut off the excess stuff

[soccer4minimags]

Yeah thats what it looked like to me in the pic. Wasn't sure though.