Ironmen Intitmidator Vs. DM4

[SpongeBobSquarePants]

I looked at the alias as well, its fast but my beef with it is it is too small. I have pretty large hands so it just doesn't feel right for me.

[magsRus]

Maybe my 2 cents will help you out...

I own a Species Intimidator but I used to have a DYE LCD Matrix. Heres what I got to say on both of them

Weight- Matrix is heavier then the Timmy
Speed- Their about the same but Timmy would be in favor (but since your getting a DM4 the speed will be godly)
Balance- It all matters what kind of set up you do, I had a unimount haloB and used a 68/4500 tank that balanced out quite well on both guns
Matience- I cant really help you out here because my DYE Matrix had so many problems with it.

[xXHavokXx]

Get the DM4, you clean them every 6 cases and they will love you and serve your nefarious evil through constant slaughter of noobs and wannabe's. Your performance will increase and women will flock to you like the swallows to capistrano.


Seriously, get the DM or a FLy4 . everyone has a timmy

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
It's all personal preference. I've shot out tons of people who used high end guns back when I still had a Piranha. The gun doesnt make the player. If you want a solid shooting platform, you cant go wrong with an Angel. The new Fly has alot of features, that I'm sure rival the Alias. So why do you think the Alias is better?

HAhaha. "It's not the gun it's the player". Such a cop out. The discussion had nothing to do with player skills. It was about the "solid shooting platform".

Why don't we start with the fact that it's $300 less. $300 that can go towards the suped up versions of the DM4 when it comes out.

Add to that the Alias has a phenomenally better trigger which is MUCH more easily adjustable. The lightest I can get that leaf spring while still staying in contact with a slayer trigger is still a 2.3 gram pull, which, after removing the tension in the trigger, caused all kinds of slop which needed to be cleaned up with shims and aluminum tape before it was finally walkable. The triggers travel is only adjustable by those two adjustment wheels which, if you haven't noticed, also have slop in them that needs to be cleaned up. After several hours worth of work, the trigger was the best I could get it to be, but it was spongy and only acceptable at best. The Alias comes with a very thin light weight trigger running on a microswitch instead of the eye sensor in the Angel. Clip the spring or take it out entirely and it's ready to go.

There is a break beam eye in both. Both have LCD's in the grip frame, and both run on low pressure; the Alias being the more efficient one unless you run no volumizer on the Angel, in which case you can only shoot Zap Primer through your gun because everything else will explode down your barrel.

Tuning the LPR on an Angel requires a $50 tool kit.

Alias is lighter (weigh them, I did) with a lower profile and center of gravity.

Alias doesn't have a problem with being force fed with a Halo like the Angel does.

Since I am still getting this A4 ready for this weekend, I'm sure I'll come up with more, but maybe I won't have to. I think this is plenty to justify an Alias over a Fly. Unless you think for some reason the new Frenzy board is slower than the Angel's.

And if you get a DM4 and a new version comes out with an Evolve designed bolt, better regs, and nicer milling come out, would you rather have a stock DM4 and a suped up DM4, or an Alias and a suped up DM4? If you're going to spend that kind of money, time it right. If you plan on selling the DM4 before getting a better version of it, think of what will happen to the resale value of the DM4 when the new stuff comes out. You would already be ahead with money if you had bought the Alias.

[No sKiLLz]

Ask this guy if firepower matters.