why 3-A so cheap?

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  • rtpro28
    Registered User
    • Feb 2004
    • 72

    #1

    why 3-A so cheap?

    i've never used any of there stuff, but i saw what looks to be a descent barrel kit for about 70, anyone ever use this?
  • lord1234
    College Boy Spydarm
    • Apr 2003
    • 1558

    #2
    second person to ask about their barrel kit on here recently...everyone has resoundingly given these barrel kits an F- on performance. You really will get what you pay for! Check out the Sanchez Machine barrels(shameless plug) that I carry. Talk to me for more info!

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    • Cryer
      Paintball is over.
      • Nov 2002
      • 4105

      #3
      I'd stay away from any products that were designed with ebay as the target market.

      Check out CP barrel kits, Empire barrel kits, and J&J barrel kits. All have positive reviews and are relatively inexpensive.

      Lord, I've not heard of that particular brand... Do you have a thread in the dealers forum? (might be a good idea...)

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      • TheTramp
        Registered User
        • Jan 2001
        • 4019

        #4
        I've got the Sanchez and it's a very solid kit.

        There are some issues with getting it all set up but once it's ready it's a very sturdy but nice looking barrel. I believe there are 7 backs total but they come separatly in a small and a large kit.
        "Relax. Don't worry. Have a Home Brew."
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        • Cryer
          Paintball is over.
          • Nov 2002
          • 4105

          #5
          wait...Sanchez Machine=SM1, right? I've seen those...

          Is the SM-3 a barrel kit, or a single piece barrel?

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          • Scircal
            Registered User
            • Nov 2003
            • 56

            #6
            If you have standard (cocker) threads, you might try a Matchstick barrel kit. They are only $99, but supposedly have great performance. I haven't tried one yet, tho. Satisfied with my Scepter.

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            • MarkM
              UK Cougars
              • Jul 2002
              • 2433

              #7
              Originally posted by TheTramp
              I've got the Sanchez and it's a very solid kit.

              There are some issues with getting it all set up but once it's ready it's a very sturdy but nice looking barrel. I believe there are 7 backs total but they come separatly in a small and a large kit.
              What issues? You screw it together simple as that and if any O ring needs replacing then a set of picks are your friend. Incidently Sanchez are making the barrel for the Racegun 'Cocker together with the insert so you can actually have a barrel with a marker that you won't throw in the bottom of your kit bag
              Mark UK Cougars


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              • TheTramp
                Registered User
                • Jan 2001
                • 4019

                #8
                Originally posted by MarkM


                What issues? You screw it together simple as that and if any O ring needs replacing then a set of picks are your friend.
                Well, it's not really as simple as that is it.

                There are three pieces and while they all screw together perfectly(As you know. I'm typing this part for those who don't), the trouble comes when you screw it into the gun.

                It is difficult to take the barrel on and off the gun without unscrewing the back pieces from each other instead of the out of/into the gun. You have to use the wrench (provided) and that can be a pain.

                That issue is a negative it's a simple as that. Is it such a negative that it makes the rest of the quality not worth it? Not to me.

                I love the barrel and I think it's very well make with great quality control. It does have one issue however.
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                • personman

                  #9
                  Metal + Sweatshops in China = 3A's products.

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                  • MarkM
                    UK Cougars
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2433

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheTramp


                    Well, it's not really as simple as that is it.

                    There are three pieces and while they all screw together perfectly(As you know. I'm typing this part for those who don't), the trouble comes when you screw it into the gun.

                    It is difficult to take the barrel on and off the gun without unscrewing the back pieces from each other instead of the out of/into the gun. You have to use the wrench (provided) and that can be a pain.

                    That issue is a negative it's a simple as that. Is it such a negative that it makes the rest of the quality not worth it? Not to me.

                    I love the barrel and I think it's very well make with great quality control. It does have one issue however.
                    I am guessing that you bought the barrel from an online store or by mail order. I bought mine direct from Sanchez in person (well the booth operators) and was told (common sense really) that you use the spanner to torque the pieces together before you put it on the marker. I clean my Barrel after every game regardless if I have had a ball break or not and have yet to have the insert stay on the marker.
                    On the occassions I have broken a ball I only knew when I came to clean the barrel as I had not had any indication on the field, the barrel is that good.
                    Mark UK Cougars


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                    • Chris42050
                      Splatmaster Tech
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 567

                      #11
                      I am completly lost. O-rings in a barrel? Im sorry if i sound stupid here. I think you guys are talking about those barrels with 2 or more pieces. What is the benefit of having a barrel more than one peice.

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                      • MarkM
                        UK Cougars
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2433

                        #12
                        Less weight in your kit bag for one, as you have inserts and the main barrel not a barrel bag with 4 complete barrels.
                        Dye ultralite to use as an example have an O ring on the tip section, the barrel we are talking about has an O ring at the point inside the barrel that the sized insert comes to, this can move sometimes....I say sometimes as mine hasn't but an O ring in that position will not stay put forever.

                        Go look at the site and it will explain a little more the questions you have http://www.sm1paintballbarrel.com/
                        Mark UK Cougars


                        UK Cougars
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                        • lord1234
                          College Boy Spydarm
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1558

                          #13
                          yes i do have a thread in the dealers forum...its a little down there as i havent upped in a while. Also check out www.poormanspaintball.com for more info!
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                          • funkmunky56
                            open for interpretation!!!
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 271

                            #14
                            yeah... so far, every 3A nitro tank (and I mean EVERY) that has come into the store I'm a tech at, has been in the hands of an upset customer who got this SWEET deal online, but when they went to a field to play, the tank either wouldn't fill properly, leaked from the pin valve, or recharged like, oh, 20 times a MINUTE... just my experiences for ya. --Funk
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                            • Jackel411
                              East Coast Anarchy...WHAT!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 882

                              #15
                              Yeah 3a has gotten a bad rep from me ( techie too! ) Kids just end up dumping the bottles all together or I send them to PMS to get reregged....

                              I fully endorse any barrel kit made by Empire ( if you do the ninja bling thing ) or CP if your anal retentive with colors like me
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