Viking > Mag Reasons...Please Help

[can'tthink of1]

Go on the feel of the marker in you hands. Whichever one you like the feel of more (liek the trigger frame position, angle, trigger) go with that one.

[ubooze]

Basically, shoot both guns. While one gun may be better in one catagory, the other is better in another. It all comes down to what YOU want. You have to shoot both and get a feel for them. And quite frankly, it will all come down to being "Do I want an electro or mech?" That it.

That comment about jacking a Civic in the air.... wasn't AGD always the one claiming to have the fastest cycling gun? Meh, doesn't matter. If I had a loader fast enough to PROVE to you I can shoot 25 bps, you still wouldn't believe me. But if I can get a Victory board, I think I can provide some evidence.

And second, a mech Mag without retro will have trouble keeping up with a Vik. UNLESS you get that hAIR trigger, which nicad claims can do 20.4(right?). Even then, I think a Vik will still have an edge, but thats all up to you.

I really hate these gun A vs. gun B threads, but quite frankly, I cannot sit here and watch as everyone calls AKA guns inferior. Honesty, I wonder how many of those people even tried the gun.

[Butterfingers]

Never said they were inferior... just providing objective evidence.

[No sKiLLz]

Originally posted by LeatherPants
Both E/X mags are great. I play back so thats why I shoot a Viking. I set all my marker up for efficiency. Basically this past weekend with a compressor only filling to 3k on my 68ci I was still getting over 7 pods and a hopper.

What Leatherpants fails to mention is that the game wasn't over yet by the time his efficiency was determined.

[Lohman446]

Not sure.. but seems how were discussing mechanical

Is it even possible to shortstroke a Viking?

This to me is the one thing that bothers me about mechanical mags.

[ubooze]

No, its electronic, but one problem that may occur is, and it does happen to me, is that your devounce setting may be too high and will no read every pull. I have had my debounce at 25 out of 25, and as I try to walk, the gun would only shoot every 3-4 shots, depending on how fast or short trigger pull is. Then again, that probably because I have the most furious fingers in the Midwest
But at lower settings, ranging from 5 to 10 or so, I can walk like a maniac, but raking induces bounces. I know that I can achieve some balance, but I am too lazy.

Boy am I tired....

[Skoad]

Comparing mech to electro makes no sense.

[Jon/xpm]

pputkowski-nelson or was board viking?
I would suggest to get a viking since its electro

The was board vikings will probably be to high for the
range your looking for(but i dont know how much your willing to spend i am only guessing)
Vikings shoot great with nelson boards, the was boards just gave it some options and some other features but the gun was great before the was board

[Ov3rmind]

Originally posted by ubooze
No, its electronic, but one problem that may occur is, and it does happen to me, is that your devounce setting may be too high and will no read every pull. I have had my debounce at 25 out of 25, and as I try to walk, the gun would only shoot every 3-4 shots, depending on how fast or short trigger pull is. Then again, that probably because I have the most furious fingers in the Midwest
But at lower settings, ranging from 5 to 10 or so, I can walk like a maniac, but raking induces bounces. I know that I can achieve some balance, but I am too lazy.

The solution to this is easy, set your debounce. It's not a very hard thing to do (if you can pull a trigger and watch an LED light blink, you're A OK).

[pputkowski]

This is not a help me decide over Gun A over Gun B or a which should I buy.

Did I ever say that I am buying one of the two guns?

I am only looking for differences between the two guns.

So far, the only ones that have contributed are Lohman, joey d, and Ov3rmind.

Sorry if I'm being rude but I hate when pple hi-jack threads...

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by pputkowski
I am only looking for differences between the two guns.

I think the differences are pretty clear overall.

Mechanical versus Electro right off the bat.

Overall,electro wins IMO.

Higher and easier to reach ROF.
No chance of short stroking.
Less tuning and tweeking for max performance.

Everthing else is basically equal.
Consistancy
Maintenance
Reliability
Weight
Anti chop system

After that you have basically 3 main differences left,

Efficiency,Vike kills the Mag.
Profile,Mag kills the Vike.
User available customization,Mag kills there too.

After that your down to Company v. Company

I'm going with AGD simply because they seem to ALWAYS go the extra mile get it down for the customer.While AKA seems very good as a whole there's been more than a few documented cases of them dropping the ball or passing the buck. Only offering warranty on "thier" parts of the marker despite the fact that that they sell it as a complete unit and shifting the remaining responsibility on outside vendors is quite laughable IMO and I'm suprised AKA gets away with it so often.

So that's my .02

[GT]

apples and oranges


500 v. 1k.

[Lohman446]

The man is not asking for a comparison, he is asking for what strong points a viking has over a mechanical mag, not for an even comparison, he likely knows the strengths of teh mag.

It looks to me, the viking has over a mechanical mag - realistic things, not "low pressure" hype
1) Efficiency
2) More adjustable trigger
3) ACE (faster than LX)
4) No short stroking
5) Don't expect as much crap from the chrono judges (not judging if thsi is right or not, it just is)
6) Can shoot it faster (generally)

If you want hype things
Low pressure (who cares)
Fast (god knows if its useable)
AKA
Will be drooled on at field