what is a better barrel

[Enemy]

ok i hate to ask this but in everyones opion what is a better system the pipe or the freak.. please keep the anti smartparts to a minimum i know what they did and that is their choice i dont like icd and if they choose to go past that then i will do something about it!!!

[Lohman446]

Re: what is a better barrel

Originally posted by Enemy
i dont like icd and if they choose to go past that then i will do something about it!!!

Yeh.. like say force AKA to stop making Vikings and Excaliburs for instance...

But seriously I think there are better kits out there. Unless were discussing the steel inserts of the freak kit you have to remember the inserts are fragile. Also quality control on the freak has been known to be lacking and the sleeve sizes are more of a guess than whats printed on them. The Evil pipe has been having issues with teh fragility of the tip from what I understand. I used to have an ACI Phat system that worked well, until I got sick of kits and use my ACI zero gravity barrel for everything. Personally I think you will find kits to be overrated and you'd be better off with a good one piece barrel

[Gadget]

The way the Pipe looks puts some people off and it has fragile tips which can be bent.

The Freak has a reputation for innacurrate sizing of inserts and the inserts themselves are very fragile. However you can now get a freak with stainless inserts.

I would probably avoid both and go for either a Powerlyte Scepter kit (which I use at the moment - works beautifully but not impressed with the quality of the anno on the tip) or a CP kit with assorted backs.

[Torbo]

id go ahead and say neither one. I would get either: J&J edge, empire kit, or sceptor.

[Head knight of Ni]

CP kit, Empire, or a scepter.

[rkjunior303]

I have a pipe kit myself and have had good luck with it. I take it easy generally and have been lucky with my tip *knock on wood*

[Enemy]

thanks for all the input everyone.. still dont know what im going to do but i will figure it out eventually. please keep the sugestions coming if you can!!!1

[tyrion2323]

I use a 4-Piece Empire kit. I love it.

I've heard good things about the Kaner kit as well.

[Skoad]

shot both. I liked the pipe more. I felt more comfortable with a fixed control bore than the insert sleeves.


I'm not sure what Gadget is talking about fragile tips. Had no issues with mine and i've stuck it in the dirt multiple times in the same game. Had to squeegie out a dirt clod snake about 6 inches long. Didn't bend the barrel :P


I have also had CP. CP was nice until the chrome finish on one of the backs started to peel. From what i hear CP will replace it if i sent it back but i just ended up selling it.

If $$ is an issue go with either the WGP Kaner kit (haven't used but have heard great things) or the Pipe. I got my Pipe kit used for 135 ish, have seen them as low as 120. Kaner kit is 125-130ish. www.Paintballgateway.com did have them for 130 and free 2 day shipping but they are out of stock. Talk to Roguefactor on here if you are looking for Kaner too.

Those are if your wanting a complete kit. CP kits you can buy by the single back for relatively cheap. CP's are $30 bucks a tip and $30 bucks a back. You can start out with one tip and one back, then add on to your kit later if you feel the need to (prices are what paid for mine few months ago). Got mine direct from www.customproducts-az.com , gotta phone it in.

[rkjunior303]

Evil is coming out with some updated tips, as well. The 'Ultra' tips... I think they are to help in terms of durability and noise -- the pipe can be kinda loud.

[Cryer]

I voted for the Pipe, but in reality I would get an Equation kit.

https://www.equationusa.com

Mention you are an AO member, they will give a discount.

Either that, a Powerlyte Scepter, or a CP kit

[fire1811]

i had a freak.......it lasted 2 weekends and then i sold it.
pipes not bad but i agree with most here and say either
cp kit or one of the other mentioned

[riooso]

I like the Worrgames Kaner Barrel system. It is all aluminium but they have been working well for me. I also like the JT 2 piece. I play woods ball and not much tourney so there you go. The Kaner is very accurate.

R

[spacemonkey]

kaner..

i say go with kaner... its nice and very light. I got one for about $130 (pan-am here in vegas)
my friend has an evil pipe system on his angel its nice
my other friend has a freak both of them like it, but the freak will prolly give you more headache than the evilpipe...

[WARPED1]

Re: Re: what is a better barrel

Originally posted by Lohman446


Yeh.. like say force AKA to stop making Vikings and Excaliburs for instance...

SP had nothing to do with that, just like AGD decided not to make E/Xmags anymore, AKA decided to stop production on its electro markers. If you're going to bash SP, at least get your story straight ............