SFL Fireblade 4.0 FURY!

[Z-man]

That or I suppose if the trigger could somehow push the sear WAAAAAY back perhaps that would be NG as you start messing with the brass on/off chamber... thing.

[judster]

that is one of the best looking mags i have ever seen...thats very nice man, very nice...call me stupid but who did the anno on it? and how would one go about getting their gun to them for anno?

[RRfireblade]

The 'brass on/off chamber thing'(nicely put) is ultimatly the final stop,as the pin will flush out in it.After that you aint gonna crush the brass assembly with normal use.

[Z-man]

then there ya go! if the sear stops flush against that if you happen to pull that far the only thing you dont want to do is adjust the rod so that the trigger is putting pressure on it and limiting the sears ability to catch the bolt.

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As for the ano... ummm well I don't recall who did the ano but it's a pwerter ano that was dusted rather than polised (afectionatly known as "car primer" by my so-called firneds )

I am sure any ano place worth it's salt can do it. I happen to like PK Selective but there are many others.

[NeoMoses]

Re: Re: Re: ...

Originally posted by RogueFactor

...Like RobAGD stated, the trigger rod controls the speed at which things happen in the guns as far as the timing of the On/off pin closing and the sear releasing. The Rod length changes the speed and timing that these happen at.

uuuummmmm.... one of us is mistaken. The last time I checked, a Mag sear is a simple lever with one pivot point near the center. That pivot point is set by where the sear pin rests in the rail. Ignoring wear, the sear will always pivot in the exact same motion, always releasing the bolt and pressing the on/off pin in the same way, every time. (For argument's sake, let's call this the 'activation point.') That's how fixed pivot levers work. Looking at the mechanics of this mechanism, the only effect the sear rod will have on its operation is changing the position of the release point with respect to the trigger pull. A long trigger rod will cause the release point to be earlier in the trigger pull, whereas a short trigger rod will cause the release point to be later in the trigger pull. Since adjusting the trigger rod does not move the pivot point, it cannot change any speed/timing inside the gun.

Can you provide some information to back up your point?

[Z-man]

This is my thinking as well. However there is one tiny detail that it sounds like RobAGD believes affects the function of the valve

While the Sear cant really go "too far" back because the brass on/off valve stops it if it pushes the pin flush with the valve. Similarly, the on/off pin is the thing that resets the sear on the bolt so unless you are holding it back, that part is taken care of.

But while all the triggers out there have the same pivot point that location of the back of the trigger where the sear pin hits is not necessaraly the same. It could be a bit further forward or closer.

Obviosly if the trigger sat too close to the back of the grip frame there would not be enough travel to open the on/off valve.

Buthere is the part that I am a bit sketchy on. Since the RT really shoots itself after you crack the trigger a little bit, you never really pull the full length of a trigger pull because the valve goes through it so fast you don't get a chance. So beyond getting it to actuate... what's the problem?

Any minor change in speed from a different angle that a trigger comes in at should hardely affect the valve opening and as long as the pin does not touch the trigger, it has to be resetting 100% seem to me.

[Eatem Alive]

looks good zak...i think it's time to "guard the president" again.

[Steelrat]

Zak gets all the love.

[ZAust]

Originally posted by Steelrat
Zak gets all the love.

i know.. zach wants some too!

[NeoMoses]

I didn't think there would be a reply...

I would like to hear a real explanation as to why the trigger rod should not be adjusted. The explanation provided by RobAGD is incorrect. However, there must be some reason that AGD does not recommend adjusting this rod. My best assumption at the moment is that they do not want stupid people trying to adjust their trigger rods as it would probably cause more warranty returns for them to deal with. Is there another reason?

Originally posted by NeoMoses


uuuummmmm.... one of us is mistaken. The last time I checked, a Mag sear is a simple lever with one pivot point near the center. That pivot point is set by where the sear pin rests in the rail. Ignoring wear, the sear will always pivot in the exact same motion, always releasing the bolt and pressing the on/off pin in the same way, every time. (For argument's sake, let's call this the 'activation point.') That's how fixed pivot levers work. Looking at the mechanics of this mechanism, the only effect the sear rod will have on its operation is changing the position of the release point with respect to the trigger pull. A long trigger rod will cause the release point to be earlier in the trigger pull, whereas a short trigger rod will cause the release point to be later in the trigger pull. Since adjusting the trigger rod does not move the pivot point, it cannot change any speed/timing inside the gun.

Can you provide some information to back up your point?

[RRfireblade]

Re: I didn't think there would be a reply...

Originally posted by NeoMoses
I would like to hear a real explanation as to why the trigger rod should not be adjusted. The explanation provided by RobAGD is incorrect. However, there must be some reason that AGD does not recommend adjusting this rod. My best assumption at the moment is that they do not want stupid people trying to adjust their trigger rods as it would probably cause more warranty returns for them to deal with. Is there another reason?

They don't want people adjusting the rod for reasons other than it is out of spec or improper trigger gap and I agree with that.

There are those who have no clue how a Mag functions and think that adjusting the rod will have some effect on trigger pull or weight.That is the primary problem and AGD's concern.