Video of Prison fight from California?

[cphilip]

has anyone seen this thing. Seems they released a video of a fight that shows (supposedly) a Corrections Officer over using force.

What does this have to do with paintball?

Well if you watch closely.... several officers come running in to help subdue the two Inmates and at least two of them are pointing what looks like paintball markers. I can clearly see hoppers. Have no idea what load they using. Probably Bismuth Balls (heh I said balls) as you would not use Pepper in a enclosed room. I did not see them fire any. But it seems they are using Paintball Markers in these California Prisons.

Be sure to look around for this. It was released yesterday I think. Its probably on the net somewhere by now. I saw it on last nights National News.

[Steelrat]

They are, I see them in there all the time. They would use them as a stand off weapon, even in an enclosed space. The best application I have seen for them, however, is to deal with dogs at a property where a search or arrest warrant is being served. The old alternative was just to shoot the dogs.

[Buff]

just shoot the dogs.....

[The Frymarker]

Yes my husband and I saw it yesterday on the news...the looked to be Tippmann's I could be wrong.


The news anchors said that they were held at bay with "guns". My husband and I laughed, because they never get the facts straight.

[Raven4000SX]

Yes they are Tippmann model 98's. Most of the time they are filled with pepper spray. Good for riots.

[edweird]

Originally posted by The Frymarker
I laughed, because they never get the facts straight.

Hehehe ive long since stop taking news seriously for factual content. If I find it worth intrest I normally hop to their site and get the strait -albeit biased- story

and well anytime it involves military actions I normally have to translate it for everyone else.

[cphilip]

Yea Branden, but I doubt Pepper Balls would be good "inside" a Prison. I know they using them in riot control outside but can you imagine them shooting off one in that room? I mean you would incapacitate both the inmates and the Gaurds right?

[Steelrat]

At the range in the video, they might get a whiff, but not the full effect.

[cphilip]

So you think they using Pepper or Bismuth stuners?

[Steelrat]

I've only ever seen the pepperball rounds available. Whenever you escalate to a pure impact less-lethal round, you increase the chances of a serious injury. An impact weapon at that range is going to be packing quite a whallop.

Think of it this way. Police officers routinely use spray cans of OC, and whats the range on that? I dont think that the pepperballs put more OC in the air.

[Eatem Alive]

they showed a copy of the document regarding the situation and the word "pepperball" was in there.

also, i think that was from c.y.a (california youth authority) right here in good ole stockton...#330 on the list of places to live of it's size (not good). what happened to "all american city" of 1999?

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Steelrat
I've only ever seen the pepperball rounds available. Whenever you escalate to a pure impact less-lethal round, you increase the chances of a serious injury. An impact weapon at that range is going to be packing quite a whallop.

Think of it this way. Police officers routinely use spray cans of OC, and whats the range on that? I dont think that the pepperballs put more OC in the air.

Well I was going to say that the Bismuth at the range they were could be lethal. So either choice is not really that good indoors like they were. I suspect that the Pepper would indeed spread. Its a very dry powdery substance I think. Not certain.

But looked to me like the Billy Clubs was doing a fine job!

[Raven4000SX]

The prison guards don't have to stay in the room after they shoot the prisonsers. I'm sure they are shot from a distance so it doesn't affect the guards.

[billmi]

Originally posted by cphilip

I suspect that the Pepper would indeed spread. Its a very dry powdery substance I think. Not certain.

The Pepperballs are available with both a liquid and a powder fill. There's also a training powder version with a non-irritating powder, some of which I happen to have. It doesn't spread very far from the target - even compared to pepper spray, which is commonly used indoors in correctional facilities. My neighbor is a correctional officer who is immune to OC, so after an inmate gets sprayed breaking up a fight he does the interviews. After a day like that, he comes home and it's in his uniform so strong that my eyes water just to chat down at the mailbox a few feet away from him.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

[Cryer]

Originally posted by billmi
...My neighbor is a correctional officer who is immune to OC, so after an inmate gets sprayed breaking up a fight he does the interviews. After a day like that, he comes home and it's in his uniform so strong that my eyes water just to chat down at the mailbox a few feet away from him.

That would be AWESOME to be immune to that crap!