info on sovereign 2

[ah137]

Looking for info on an Arrow Precision vertical feed, Sovereign 2. Or if you own one post here. Thanks Hills

[Muzikman]

I would go the other way. Look for an original Sov. Much nicer gun.

[manike]

Originally posted by Muzikman
I would go the other way. Look for an original Sov. Much nicer gun.

I would disagree 100% with you. I owned a Sov 1 and now own a Sov II. The Sov II is one of the favourite guns in my collection.

The original Sov 1 was done by Dave Galsworthy trying to get into the Semi market and make some fast money before selling out...

The Sov II was taken on by Arrow precision and was developed by a very famous AirSmith in Europe, John Bonich. He also does a lot of Automag work...

He made a vastly superior gun based on the same design. The design is improved as is the quality and the parts and the functionality.

I have a blue vert feed Sov. I think it is one of the most underated and under seen guns in paintball. It works very similarly to the Autococker. The only negatives as compared to an Autococker is that you can't strip out the bolt so easily. And it won't cycle quite so quickly without turning up the operating pressure (not really a problem it is still fast enough for me in tourneys).

It is MUCH lighter than the autococker as well as slimmer and looks much less complicated. Mine is very, very light.

The first time I aired up my gun it shot 301, 303, 302, 301... I changed the springs to get it down and then shot 297 5 times in a row (with many people watching). You can adjust the velocity by a screw at the back like an Autococker or by the reg pressure.

Out of all my guns it is the most accepting of bad paint. It is still amazingly consistent and thus accurate even with bad paint. If the paint is crappy then I always just use the Sov II.

It is a stock gun and not very expensive but shoots like a custom Autococker. Mine is completely stock, but then it's hard to call any gun that has been worked on by John Bonich 'stock'.

I seriously recommend a Sov II. I wouldn't touch a Sov 1... apart from if it was very very cheap and could then trade it in for a Sov II to get the Sov II for less (what I did).

You will want to try and find some barrels though which isn't so easy. Phantom barrels can be modified to fit. You can also buy Sterling barrels and just get the lead cut down.

When I find time I will take some pictures for you...

manike

[virus]

like minike said... anything jonbon hand a hand in really isnt stock.... but the sov2 is the way to go..... esp if only to stay away from the other over-glorified-pumpgun

finding parts can be tricky at times... like i said in the classified fourm chk out www.paintballmaxx.com

for barrels dye and smartparts.. usally ya have to deal directly with them to get them unless ya can get a online store to get one for you.... which may be cheaper...

as for adjusting the velocity deffinatly(sp?) use an inline reg for that job... much easiser

the trigger, how can i put this.... hmm...... one word comes to mind SWEEEEEEET

the most fun about it is though... take it totaly apart at a field... esp if there are cocker people there.... and put it back together, hit up the chrono and go play in under 10 min.... (esp fun if there are cockers there that are having timing problems)

BTW here is a pic for ya

[ah137]

anyone else?

[kenshinkandon]

its in the UK but this might help

http://www.powerball.co.uk/

[Maghog]

When I read the title of this subject, I knew manike was going to get in on it...when I spoke to him in Frankfurt, he had some very optimistic comments about the sovereign II. So much so that I'm ready to pick one up myself. If the accuracy is as good as he says(and he didn't seem to have a reason to lie) you won't be disappointed if you get one.

[Shives]

Got to put my $0.02 in here.

Ages ago, I picked up an original Sov. I had some odd non-specific leaks that nobody could track down. Not really enough to keep from using it, but annoying. It mostly hung on the wall. Finally, I got fed up enough to trade it in on a new generation (Mark III) Sov. I had some minor issues, but finally got my new, in box Sov III. But, it had no manual. A few emails later, I got a .pdf file. Great. Until I realized it was for a Sov II. I replied to the email address in the manual, and though he seems to have nothing to do w/ them, John Bonich replied w/in 8 hours. I'm already impressed, and he has only offered to try and help.

Cool guy.

Shives

[Skoad]

nice 5 year digup

[slade]

hmmm... now i want one.

i really need to curb the gun whore in me...

[manike]

nice 5 year digup

Yeah, that has to be the biggest thread ressurection EVER! Wow.

John Bonich did the Sov II and Sov III, that's why he is so helpful and knows so much about them, even if he doesn't work for them anymore.

[slade]

so... anyone have one for sale?

[punkncat]

What suprized me is that Virus' linked pic is still working after 5 years.

[nicad]

I had a Sov 1 and a 2.. sold the 1, still have the 2.

I had put a Race frame on the 2, and then ended up pulling it back off of it due to it not ever really being very happy.. and back in the day, a Race frame was $500-- that was too pricy just for an "OOoo" factor.

[GT]

Does arrow even makes these anymore? I would love to try one.