Speed or dye trix

[TeamNausea]

Warped you dont need an lp tank if you wanna chrono over 305

[dinger]

Originally posted by Top Secret
Matrix:
Cons -crappy gas efficency stock(Evolve bolt is highly recommended to fix this)

no offense but that info is about as old as your join date

and lubing.. pff thats 1 minute every several cases no biggie


dye trix = fast, quiet, HELLA efficient, easy to walk, nice LCD, funky breeches , easy to use, supposedly shoots straighter..

[Matt1427]

Speed

I choose speed, sensi is good, if it messes up it is user error. Also dinger the trix is not "hella Efficent", the effiecny actually sucks. And you have to lube the thing like crazy, and orings are always blowing left and right. Also angels are the most relaibel guns you can get, besides a mag of course. And dinger shoots straighter, thats the dumbest thing I have heard in a while.

[tony3]

Yeah sensi user error I did everything you were suppose to do, and it never did crap. I broke more balls with sensi then I did without it. ACE is much better then sensi no doubt about it. Dye trixes have average efficency, nothing special though. You can say the same about angels though. On led trixes the bolt was held open after the ball left the barrel, causing bad efficency. Along with the help of using less air to recock the gun i.e. lprs and overall better designs of the bolt kits trixes are much more efficent guns then they were in the past. No doubt about it, the trix is a better gun.

[Rope a Dope]

No, you didn't use SENSI correctly.

I have NEVER chopped with my Speed. If you chopped, then you did something wrong.

I work on a lot of Angels, dumb kids bring their Speeds to me saying it's chopping... usually their SENSI rods are worn down or they turn it on and rip on it without calibrating SENSI and their VL 2000 doesn't keep up (yeah yeah Dynasty uses slow *** hoppers so I should too ya'll!! hella sick ownz0red manizzle!).

1. Keep SENSI clean

2. Make sure you have a SENSI rod that can actually touch a ball when it is in the breech.

3. When you turn on your Speed, slow fire 10 rounds.

4. Throw paint like you're sponsored by Zap.

Also people need to use the right SENSI setting for what hopper they use. Everyone uses garbage hoppers made by brass eagle, they leave it on SENSI 2 which is the fastest SENSI and most prone to chopping. Because when it does not detect a ball it pauses for like 10ms and then fires no matter what. When you use a revy, you need to use a slower SENSI. When you use a Halo, THEN you can use SENSI 2.

I've put many cases of paint through my speed and I'm a back player, I throw paint FAST, like I said... never chopped a ball.

Either my Speed is magical or you all don't know how to read a manual. I read mine on the toilet, twice.

[magman007]

Go with the Trix, trust me on this one. The biggest mistake i ever made, was selling my toxic trix, for a speed. the speed was dissapointing compared to the trix. The trigger is nicer, there is no dumb space frame (i found this much harder to walk than my trix, even my e-mag)

The adjustability of the trix trigger is really nice

they hold resale better

they are light on the ball, without sacrificing efficiency with volumizers

breakbeam ace is better, suck it up, it is and you all know it.

Evolve makes the trix very efficient

orings do not blow left and right, i never changed an oring on my trix

re lubing isnt a big deal at all

servicing is easy, and the opperation is much easier than the angel

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Originally posted by TeamNausea
Warped you dont need an lp tank if you wanna chrono over 305

wrong.

just wrong.

I use a high pressure output tank, and mine works fine. Dont spread lies. THe manual says you can use up to 850 psi into the mini reg and it will work fine.

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Originally posted by Rope a Dope
No, you didn't use SENSI correctly.

I have NEVER chopped with my Speed. If you chopped, then you did something wrong.

I work on a lot of Angels, dumb kids bring their Speeds to me saying it's chopping... usually their SENSI rods are worn down or they turn it on and rip on it without calibrating SENSI and their VL 2000 doesn't keep up (yeah yeah Dynasty uses slow *** hoppers so I should too ya'll!! hella sick ownz0red manizzle!).

1. Keep SENSI clean

2. Make sure you have a SENSI rod that can actually touch a ball when it is in the breech.

3. When you turn on your Speed, slow fire 10 rounds.

4. Throw paint like you're sponsored by Zap.

Also people need to use the right SENSI setting for what hopper they use. Everyone uses garbage hoppers made by brass eagle, they leave it on SENSI 2 which is the fastest SENSI and most prone to chopping. Because when it does not detect a ball it pauses for like 10ms and then fires no matter what. When you use a revy, you need to use a slower SENSI. When you use a Halo, THEN you can use SENSI 2.

I've put many cases of paint through my speed and I'm a back player, I throw paint FAST, like I said... never chopped a ball.

Either my Speed is magical or you all don't know how to read a manual. I read mine on the toilet, twice.

Everything you said is correct. If you do everything right, YOU WILL NOT CHOP. I have chopped, only due to the fact I didnt turn on the Sensi, and the batteries in my Evo were almost dead, and there I was, trying to pull 13 a sec.

[tony3]

I used the Sensi test mode before every time I played and calibrated it with 15 different balls. I always used it on sensi 1 with my yboard eggy. I took out the rod, made sure there was no lube or paint on it and made sure it was going into the breech enough. Sensi is worthless.

[Rope a Dope]

Originally posted by magman007
Go with the Trix, trust me on this one. The biggest mistake i ever made, was selling my toxic trix, for a speed. the speed was dissapointing compared to the trix. The trigger is nicer, there is no dumb space frame (i found this much harder to walk than my trix, even my e-mag)

The adjustability of the trix trigger is really nice

they hold resale better

they are light on the ball, without sacrificing efficiency with volumizers

breakbeam ace is better, suck it up, it is and you all know it.

Evolve makes the trix very efficient

orings do not blow left and right, i never changed an oring on my trix

re lubing isnt a big deal at all

servicing is easy, and the opperation is much easier than the angel

Oh really?

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117110&

Originally posted by magman007
Trix or angel. I hate how Dye is handeling the trix, thats why i sold mine, and i have never been happier shooting my angel speed. Ive owned e-mags and an sfl e-mag, and well, they arent all they are cracked up to be. they lack efficiency, and are heavy.


Go with the speed or a4 IMHO, but its really up to you

Do a search... more retarded crap about whatever marker he currently owns is the very best and all others suck.

magman007, you're an asshat and should shut up when it comes to anything technical. You'd think people would dismiss your opinion from your poor grammar and spelling.

I get so sick of theses threads. Just make a thread called "What marker do you currently own" and base your decision on pure numbers. Theses kids beg their parents for 2 days straight so when they get their new toy it's the phattest sickest nizzle ma-shizzle in the world. It could be a piece of crap, but since they recently sold all their Magic the Gathering cards on eBay to buy it, they will tell you it is the very best gold shillings can buy.

[evan123]

Originally posted by Raven4000SX
Neither. X-Mag only.

Dude, x-mags are so over rated its not even funny. An aced dye trix is like 10x better then an x-mag sorry. Just go away, all your posts have been is spam and crap. Go away or something.

[TeamNausea]

Lol nice evan. Raven will have revenge though im sure!

[No sKiLLz]

Rope, you need to back off. The Matrix has a lot over the Speed.

SENSI does work moderately well. I prefer it over an IR eye like SP Vision or the X-Mags, but it is definitely not as easy and reliable as a break beam eye in a Matrix.

The Speed is lighter and WILL kick more, I don't care how you set up the dwell and the LPR. My girlfriends A4 has the largest volumizer with the LPR set at 60psi and the dwell at 18, and it is still louder and less stable a shooting platform than the Matrix.

Efficiency is all in the settings. If the settings were equal (same dwell, same cycling and final output pressure) the Angel would be more efficient. But once again, it also wouldn't be as stable a shooting platform as the Matrix.

The microswitch and set screws in the Matrix allows for trigger adjustments that are much cleaner than the Angel. Once the leaf spring in the Angel trigger is bent, the lack of tension makes it becomes sloppy as hell. For anyone who doesn't know how to find shims or use aluminum tape, it plain sucks.

There's more but I don't have the time. I'm curious, what's YOUR basis for saying the Speed is a better buy than a Matrix?

[Rope a Dope]

Originally posted by No sKiLLz

The Speed is lighter and WILL kick more, I don't care how you set up the dwell and the LPR. My girlfriends A4 has the largest volumizer with the LPR set at 60psi and the dwell at 18, and it is still louder and less stable a shooting platform than the Matrix.

So the Speed is lighter... that's a bad thing? As far as recoil, the correct setting is to set the output of your tank at 550psi and then set the LPR to 55psi, not 60, then you can drop the output of your tank to around 400psi and set your dwell to 17ms (Mini reg screw almost flush with the reg body). With paint and this LP mod my Speed does not have any recoil.

True, SENSI is not easy to setup, you have to actually read the manual that it comes with. That must be "hella weak" or something.

Also, where did I say the Speed was a better buy than a Matrix or vice versa? I like my Speed and I am stating facts, not "yo cuz, this gun is hella sick yo, it is the mofo tizzle!!!". But no, the Matrix does not have a lot over the Speed. Nor does it have any less. I like the bells and whistles on my Speed better than the bells and whistles on The Matrix. As far as relibility, any marker you don't take care of will not function properly. Speeds are very reliable, but I've fixed many that dumb kids abused.

You're the one that needs to back your limp bizkit *** up.

[No sKiLLz]

You know, I tried to be cool about this, but i didn't know till now that you are a PBN immigrant.

Your Angel kicks. I'm sorry to hurt your feelings, but the laws of physics state that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The force of expelling the paintball creates more inertia than any reciprocating mass from internal workings of the gun, so if the gun is heavier, it absorbs more of the force caused by launching a paintball. So get over it. The Matrix kicks less than your Angel.

And the "correct" settings are the ones that make the marker shoot better. You honestly think that the dwell being 1 milisecond longer and LPR output being 5 PSI higher is the reason my GF's A4 kicks more than the Matrix?

Speaking of bells and whistles, what does a Speed have that a Matrix doesn't? The LED Love meter on the grip?

Matrix: Multi-function LCD display with adjustable contrast, forward/back pulses, temperature read out, ROF, trip shot counter and game timer. Features a removable two piece breech and two way adjustable trigger.

Your facts are weak, just like your flames. Go back to PBN.