How do I make a paintball marker muffler?

[tjmpaintball06]

i can send you the plans for a silencer that muffles an unported barrel. its built out of pvc and steel wool. aim=tjmpaintball88

[MarkM]

Easiest way would be to make a silencer, I'm sure Warpig would have some links hanging around somewhere and then plug the end with wire wool or what I used in the silencer I built years ago those plastic pan scrubbers sort of a cross between steel wool and a sponge. I reckon I still have my silencer in a draw some where that I could do what I have just suggested.

[Lohman446]

You do realize, making a silencer to affix to a paintball marker (assuming we are not just thinking of shooting into a big barrel or soemthing) or sellign them online, is in violation of US federal law right?

[Raven4000SX]

Originally posted by Lohman446
You do realize, making a silencer to affix to a paintball marker (assuming we are not just thinking of shooting into a big barrel or soemthing) or sellign them online, is in violation of US federal law right?

A muffler isn't the same as a silencer. So it's not illegal and I also stated that I am using it at home. I will not be shooting paintballs out of it. I just want to make my Mag quiet enough to shoot indoors.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Lohman446
You do realize, making a silencer to affix to a paintball marker (assuming we are not just thinking of shooting into a big barrel or soemthing) or sellign them online, is in violation of US federal law right?

...and if your refering to Marks use of the Term "silencer" then you have to remember he is British and that term may have a slightly different meaning to him than what your thinking about. Your thinking of something that will muffle the sound of a paintball marker that is shot. And even if he was then he is not too concerned about our Federal laws.

[billmi]

Originally posted by Lohman446
You do realize, making a silencer to affix to a paintball marker (assuming we are not just thinking of shooting into a big barrel or soemthing) or sellign them online, is in violation of US federal law right?

Which particular US law prohibits building or selling a device to silence the report of a paintball marker?

Under US Federal law it is a crime to own a firearm supressor, parts for a firearm supressor, or tools for making a firarm supressor without a license.

That law does not define a firearm supressor, supressor parts, or supressor manufacturing tools in any more detail than that. The BATF has the authority to seize and examine items they believe may be firearm supressors, supressor components or tools for the manufacture of a firearm supressor. If they decide a device fits one of those three categories, they can act. The device does not have to meet any set criteria, they are allowed to arbitrarily classify it (I've been told that BATF Technology Branch Chief, Edward Owen even holds a patent on a rifle barrel with integrated sound supression that is sold without license - but he claims it's not a supressor since it relies on barrel technology not supressor technology.)

So, to make a long story short, if you have a paintgun silencer, there is a possibility that the ATF can review it, claim it to be a firearm supressor or part for a firearm supressor. They have done this to paintballers in the past. One barrel manufacturer had a significant amount of inventory seized and not returned.

They can similarly seize a pipe, paintgun, pillow, screwdriver, or drillpress, review them and claim them to be firearm supressors, supressor components, or tools used in the manufacture of firearm supressors. The law and structure of its enforcement gives them a fairly wide lattitide (not that a court might not overturn their decision but unless something proceedes to trial that's not an option.)

[Mag Master 04]

silence

i just fire into a pillow...

[phyregod]

This is what I use, and it works wonders. Get tube socks, and put one on a barrel, then slip another over that and another over that untill you have about 6 layers of socks.
get an old pod and drill about 15-20 holes near the bottom of it. space them out so they are evenly spaced for the last 3 inches of the pod. The holes should be no larger than 1/8th of an inch. Drill two holes neart the opening of the pod, so you will have somewhere to tie the string from an old barrel condom.put the barrel with the socks into the tube. it should be a fairly snug fit, if not, add socks, if too snug, remove socks. cut the socks about an inch longer than the pod, fold over the end of it, and electrical tape in place. It works wonders, its as quiet as you can probably get, cheap, easy, and re-usable.

[cphilip]

Originally posted by billmi


Which particular US law prohibits building or selling a device to silence the report of a paintball marker?

Under US Federal law it is a crime to own a firearm supressor, parts for a firearm supressor, or tools for making a firarm supressor without a license.

That law does not define a firearm supressor, supressor parts, or supressor manufacturing tools in any more detail than that. The BATF has the authority to seize and examine items they believe may be firearm supressors, supressor components or tools for the manufacture of a firearm supressor. If they decide a device fits one of those three categories, they can act. The device does not have to meet any set criteria, they are allowed to arbitrarily classify it (I've been told that BATF Technology Branch Chief, Edward Owen even holds a patent on a rifle barrel with integrated sound supression that is sold without license - but he claims it's not a supressor since it relies on barrel technology not supressor technology.)

So, to make a long story short, if you have a paintgun silencer, there is a possibility that the ATF can review it, claim it to be a firearm supressor or part for a firearm supressor. They have done this to paintballers in the past. One barrel manufacturer had a significant amount of inventory seized and not returned.

They can similarly seize a pipe, paintgun, pillow, screwdriver, or drillpress, review them and claim them to be firearm supressors, supressor components, or tools used in the manufacture of firearm supressors. The law and structure of its enforcement gives them a fairly wide lattitide (not that a court might not overturn their decision but unless something proceedes to trial that's not an option.)

Its all in the interpretation and enforcement. Its not clearly illegal unless they decide to go after you for it is it? But they seem to think they can and have published that as thier opionion on it. So they intend to extend the law that exists to cover it if they chose too. Very broad and vauge and mostly based on written opionions that we know that they will reserve the right to include it if they want too. Who wants to be the test case? Who knows if they ever will though but I can garantee you if someone uses a paintball marker to commit a crime by launching some stubstance with it then the ATF may indeed decide to start looking at it.

I once read this guys article on that. And it was pretty good. Might be of interest to some of you

http://www.beemans.net/silencers_on_airguns.htm

[Doobie]

I just got a Cocker threaded Ninja from Centerflag at Ultimate Madness for $40. It works great! Quiets an X-mag down quite a bit. The $80+ price you have seen may eb for the kit that has different threaded backs. Quite happy with mine.

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by billmi


Which particular US law prohibits building or selling a device to silence the report of a paintball marker?

Under US Federal law it is a crime to own a firearm supressor, parts for a firearm supressor, or tools for making a firarm supressor without a license.

That law does not define a firearm supressor, supressor parts, or supressor manufacturing tools in any more detail than that. The BATF has the authority to seize and examine items they believe may be firearm supressors, supressor components or tools for the manufacture of a firearm supressor. If they decide a device fits one of those three categories, they can act. The device does not have to meet any set criteria, they are allowed to arbitrarily classify it (I've been told that BATF Technology Branch Chief, Edward Owen even holds a patent on a rifle barrel with integrated sound supression that is sold without license - but he claims it's not a supressor since it relies on barrel technology not supressor technology.)

So, to make a long story short, if you have a paintgun silencer, there is a possibility that the ATF can review it, claim it to be a firearm supressor or part for a firearm supressor. They have done this to paintballers in the past. One barrel manufacturer had a significant amount of inventory seized and not returned.

They can similarly seize a pipe, paintgun, pillow, screwdriver, or drillpress, review them and claim them to be firearm supressors, supressor components, or tools used in the manufacture of firearm supressors. The law and structure of its enforcement gives them a fairly wide lattitide (not that a court might not overturn their decision but unless something proceedes to trial that's not an option.)

I was under the impression that the BATF already ruled that a paintball silencer fell under the definition of readily modified to work for a firearm and was thus in violation of the law, though not tested in court. I don't have the exact rulings on this, at work, but will look for them later.

[Raven4000SX]

guys,

this isn't really a law class or whether it's legal or not not. It just that it's being used at home and not a "silencer".

[MarkM]

Originally posted by cphilip


...and if your refering to Marks use of the Term "silencer" then you have to remember he is British and that term may have a slightly different meaning to him than what your thinking about. Your thinking of something that will muffle the sound of a paintball marker that is shot. And even if he was then he is not too concerned about our Federal laws.

Well I was talking about what you thought I was talking about but then I am not subject to your laws, I could rebuild it but plugged at the end and the sides vented as it wasn't expensive when I made it the first time, about $10...ah those were the days when you made nearly everything from the local hardware store I'm the back right incase you were wondering and I still have all of the kit in the pic

[cphilip]

Mods or Rockers? Look like Rockers to me...

[MarkM]

Originally posted by cphilip
Mods or Rockers? Look like Rockers to me...

Given the length of my hair when that pic was taken I would agree with you, but Rockers more in line with Greasers