MAGS obsolete!

[REDRT]

At the paintball shop I stopped in today. They didn't have paint and they didn't have an elbow for a powerfeed. Already a little bothed by this because it is a bit of a drive, I was eyeballing a used RTpro and commented on the lack of mags in the current APG magazine. According to the sales person, "nobody uses a mag anymore they're obsolete". So I told him, "I guess I'm a nobody" and then walked out. I was fumin a tad bit til the UPS man brought me some new stuff for my mag. I hope I see him on the field so I might show him what an obsolete mag feels like!

[Lohman446]

What people don't understand about paintball, and there are going to be some arguable points in here that are as much opinion as fact, is that there is not a lot of room for improvement of technology.

The precious shots per second: I don't really think anyone can sustain more than 15BPS - short bursts maybe in the mid twenties, but your mag will keep up (with full recharges) at that speed. I really don't think there is a ton of room for improvement.

Anti-chop eyes: Break beam eyes have been out for some time now, I just don't see a lot of improvement there. LVL 10 seems to function very well and there are now several two speed bolt designs coming for other guns. Can't easily improve something that functions.

Accuracy: Rigth.. not in paintball. Vortex shedding, the physics of a sphere as light as a paintball flying through the air assure me accuracy is never going to be perfect with current projectiles.

What are you going to improve in the "next big thing"? A better feed system - I've seen the patent and guess who holds it. But frankly the warp has already moved my hopper from out in the open, this new system is promising as a step forward. Theres not a lot to improve as far as markers go, at this point selling new markers is more about the marketing than anything else. I don't think any high-level current production gun, or gun that was produced in the last couple years, has much room to become obsolete based on function - now yours may not send e-mail and have GPS on it, but are those anything that increase the functionability of your marker?

[robdamanii]

Mags are as obsolete as the stacked tube blowback...

Edited to add: This is sarcasm dude.

[mag-hatter]

What people don't understand about paintball, and there are going to be some arguable points in here that are as much opinion as fact, is that there is not a lot of room for improvement of technology

well if everyone thought like that then there WOULDNT be anything new. think about it. i bet when the first angel came out people thought that it was perfection after having dirt style pumps and filthified cockers that looked like dinner plates with pnumatics on the front. yes, we have alot of stuff covered but there is always room for improvement.

[Halliday]

At the paintball shop I stopped in today. They didn't have paint and they didn't have an elbow for a powerfeed.......

A shop that dosn't have paint or elbows for markers?!?

Sound like that shop is about to become obsolete.

[madmatt151]

I'll give you the issue of the shop not having paint, but elbows are only really used on older guns, I haven't seen any newer guns which needed elbows. Even the pumps are going centerfeed. So if he isn't stocking any mags and such, then he doesn't need elbows. The guy is still a jerk. I give store owners the same attitude when I tell them I shoot a mag. Let them know that you aren't a nobody.

[1stdeadeye]

A shop that dosn't have paint or elbows for markers?!?

Sound like that shop is about to become obsolete.

LOL!!!

Agreed! Stupid should hurt...or go out of business at the very least!

[WARPED1]

The old mags are "obsolete" IMO, but the RTPULE or even the Emag/Xmag are not IMO, but AGD got a rep that sucked, that by todays standards they are slow and chop alot(we all know they're not.) Ang ugly(ULE bodies anyone?).
And, oh my god! Mag's aren't low pressure!

[Mag Master 04]

stupid people

i think that people need to keep their mouths shut. my local shop is the same way. they are all into the latest smart parts marker craze and dm4, angel bla bla bla. i havnt seen a mag onthe wall in over 2 years. i hate it

[Gunga]

AI was eyeballing a used RTpro and commented on the lack of mags in the current APG magazine. According to the sales person, "nobody uses a mag anymore they're obsolete".

As you were 'eyeballing' the RTP, maybe you were intertested in buying it? If so, you could do them a 'favor' and take an 'obsolete' gun off of their hands for cheap.

Of course, it suddenly wouldn't be 'obsolete' the second someone shows an interest in buying it.

[WARPED1]

I don't think new mags are obsolete at all, but reps stick in this game. Salm will forever be a cheater, Femmes will always suck, etc. Mags will always be slow and chop a lot!

[Jack & Coke]

That paintball shop owner is correct...

...if he's refering to the mag as a commodity.

He is in the business to make money, i.e. sell stuff. If he has a wall full of different guns, and the mag doesn't sell, then why restock it?

From his point of view, if the overwhelming majority of sales and demand go to Tippys, stacked tube blow backs, electros like trix, timmy angel, etc. then the only logical conclusion he can come to is that mags are no longer in use or hardly being used. Hmmm... mags must be obsolete!

However, as we all know, with regard to it's functionality and performance, the truth is that it is not obsolete.

[REDRT]

Well the shop in question, the owner has always been good to my brother (the spider user, bah) and I. Being that it has been nice out and the field has opened up they have been bombarded with players. The elbows they should've had due to half the markers on the wall needed one. And to clarify they had very little paint, but not any of their premium stuff. The RT likes the premium stuff. The comments and the view of the sales person got me down. Maybe my RT (classic) is slightly dated, but it is plenty fast. Fast enough to take on electro's.

[REDRT]

As you were 'eyeballing' the RTP, maybe you were intertested in buying it? If so, you could do them a 'favor' and take an 'obsolete' gun off of their hands for cheap.

It was a consignment gun and it wasn't cheap. Sticker shock!!

[WARPED1]

That paintball shop owner is correct...

...if he's refering to the mag as a commodity.

He is in the business to make money, i.e. sell stuff. If he has a wall full of different guns, and the mag doesn't sell, then why restock it?

From his point of view, if the overwhelming majority of sales and demand go to Tippys, stacked tube blow backs, electros like trix, timmy angel, etc. then the only logical conclusion he can come to is that mags are no longer in use or hardly being used. Hmmm... mags must be obsolete!

However, as we all know, with regard to it's functionality and performance, the truth is that it is not obsolete.

J+C speaks the truth!