Kaiser Bob, AKA Anthony Jones

[thecavemankevin]

contact the police before you contact a lawyer. i would also contact Moon Shadow in order to get more info on him...(any other phone numbers, addresses, etc..).

good luck

[cphilip]

C-Phil.....KB told me HE was taking care of that money that was Owed to Gold Dragon, because HE MADE me write that check. SO him blaming that on me is pretty low in my books.........

I certainly knew that. He at first took responsibility for taking care of it. I knew it was paint for him all along. And I am not blaming it on you at all. So I know who is responsible. I appreciate you explaining all that though.

Again, this was allowed because of his reputation here was being misused to take advantage of people. I could not allow that to continue any longer least we be partialy responsible for more of this activity. If he wants to reform he can. I offered to liquidate and fix all I could for him. If he does not take the opportunity then he is lost.

[Thermus]

contact the police before you contact a lawyer. i would also contact Moon Shadow in order to get more info on him...(any other phone numbers, addresses, etc..).

good luck

He posted his address in this thread, so I can use that, but it wouldnt hurt to have more info.

I couldn't get ahold of him last night, his phone was turned off.

[Kaiser Bob]

I lived with KB. He was my Fiance. Biggest mistake of my life. He does not pay people back in fact you are talking about losing 600 dollars, that boy owes me over $15,000 dollars. I'm never seeing that money. KB makes excuses about not having the money to ship things, and pay people back because of police and getting evicted. Bull.....it's all his fault cause he decided to stop going to work for no reason, and he sleeps all day. Thus the reason I left him. C-Phil.....KB told me HE was taking care of that money that was Owed to Gold Dragon, because HE MADE me write that check. SO him blaming that on me is pretty low in my books.........I know you all don't know me that well, but he has ruined my life, and if you involve him in yours he will drag you down.

He has one excuse after the other, and never follows through. I'm still in contact with him to make sure he dosen't screw up anything else in my life, so if anyone needs anything from me I"m more then happy to help you beat down his door.....I know his family so I can get them on him. This whole thing is so low, and I am so sorry for what he has done to all his friends from AO.

Me owing you 15,000 is less then accurate, it takes 2 to tango and we both spent money on things we wanted irresponsibly. I owe phil for gold dragon, fine, I actually did think you took care of it already and i just owed you, whatever. I love how understanding you try to be on the phone to then come on here and bash me when you know I dont get to get on here often anymore. Anyway update is im still working to straighten everything out, no mommy or daddy to help out on this one so its taking time, thats all I can really say. I look forward to when I can just look back thoughtfully at this incident in the past as a lesson learned about life.

PS- Call the police and get me arrested if you feel thats the justice thats required. You'll get restitution that way, but if you are looking to that to get what's yours faster, I fail to see how me being in jail is going to accomplish that over me just working my *** off.

[quik]

"I fail to see how me being in jail is going to accomplish that over me just working my *** off."

At least you wont be able to f*** up anymore deals when your in jail.

Honestly with this I cant see how anybody can have sympathy of any kind for KB, he screwed up royally, has BEEN screwing up royally, and the person's he has screwed over(thermus) should get MORE than he has been waiting for IMHO.

I dont know, its just people like this should seek help. Maybe you should go back and live with your parents KB .

[Kaiser Bob]

"I fail to see how me being in jail is going to accomplish that over me just working my *** off."

At least you wont be able to f*** up anymore deals when your in jail.

Honestly with this I cant see how anybody can have sympathy of any kind for KB, he screwed up royally, has BEEN screwing up royally, and the person's he has screwed over(thermus) should get MORE than he has been waiting for IMHO.

I dont know, its just people like this should seek help. Maybe you should go back and live with your parents KB .

Exactly what deals I would be making at this point is beyond me... And I have not asked for sympathy regarding my situation.

[Thermus]

Seeing you in jail wouldn't make feel the least bit better about the situation. I would love it if get no outside forces became invovled, but if I don't get what I am owed from you soon, I think I may have to. Its been a month and a half, and I haven't gotten any sign that my money will be returned to me, except for your word. From what I see, your reputation when it comes to paying people back isn't very good, so I am naturally worried.

[Moon Shadow]

whatever KB, I am trying to be understanding. I've been more then understanding.....and after all the **** I"ve been though most people can't even believe that I'm civil to you. I understand you don't have it easy right now, but it's your fault. When you choose to do nothing then that is when you are responible.....sleeping all day and not dealing with things is not the way to do stuff. Maybe the guys on here are right, maybe you do need some help.

And to add to me posting on here, I could have cared less if you saw it. You need to know the reality of what you do. Alot of people have stuck up for you and you have let them all down more then once. Good people are hard to find, and you have taken advantage of them.

So i know you blame stuff on me too......but this is life, and it's what you gotta face. I got handed crap, and now i'm dealing with it. You don't see me making raw deals, and not talking to the people.

[punkncat]

I know people get on hard times. I also know its a pain to get back out when you find yourself at that point.
It appears from what has been written here and what KB hasn't denied , is that there is a problem that has been building up and ongoing for quite some time. Time enough for this person to have been warned they were travelling down the wrong road. Time enough for many people to have been hurt or cheated. I mean , when you are convincing a girlfriend to pass a bad check to play paintball , that alone should send up multiple red flags to any person with a shred of decency.
KB has made multiple apologies , and empty promises. Maybe he is a great guy or has been a great guy. But I have this feeling that KB is a slave to something,and there is a saying that goes:
"Never trust a junkie."
I don't know what he hooked on , and very possibly not drugs. But I think the best thing for KB is to serve some time in jail and get some help. I know that sounds mixed up, but getting some good quality down time for doing the things he has done may be the best thing. I don't see anyone getting compensation out of this , but doing some time in jail may turn his life around. Give him some time to think about how he let himself get in this position.

Thermus and others.....call the cops.

[Kaiser Bob]

whatever KB, I am trying to be understanding. I've been more then understanding.....and after all the **** I"ve been though most people can't even believe that I'm civil to you. I understand you don't have it easy right now, but it's your fault. When you choose to do nothing then that is when you are responible.....sleeping all day and not dealing with things is not the way to do stuff. Maybe the guys on here are right, maybe you do need some help.

And to add to me posting on here, I could have cared less if you saw it. You need to know the reality of what you do. Alot of people have stuck up for you and you have let them all down more then once. Good people are hard to find, and you have taken advantage of them.

So i know you blame stuff on me too......but this is life, and it's what you gotta face. I got handed crap, and now i'm dealing with it. You don't see me making raw deals, and not talking to the people.

All I have been doing since my first reply on this thread is constant hard work toward resolving my issues... you clearly dont know whats going on to say that Im making raw deals and avoiding people to bring this to a suitable end.

PS- Saying you took care of the Gold Dragon thing was an honest mistake and I dont have a problem taking responsibility for it, nor have I attempt to shirk responsibility for the other things Ive done

[lord1234]

lets not turn into a flamer thread.....

[tony3]

Jerry Jerry Jerry!!!

[Albinonewt]

KB:

I like you, i really do. I think you're a good guy and I have fun hanging out with you.

That being said, if I was in the shoes of Thermus I'd have you in jail by now. I take obligations and contracts very very seriously. You are extremely fortunate to be dealing with people like him and not people like me.

I hope when you do finally make good to him you also compensate him for lost time.

[Kaiser Bob]

KB:

I like you, i really do. I think you're a good guy and I have fun hanging out with you.

That being said, if I was in the shoes of Thermus I'd have you in jail by now. I take obligations and contracts very very seriously. You are extremely fortunate to be dealing with people like him and not people like me.

I hope when you do finally make good to him you also compensate him for lost time.

I understand and respect you point of view on the matter. I am willing to compensate him for lost time if thats what he would like and we can agree on something.

[MicroMiniMe]

Well all I can say is I hope you were able to ship the tank today like you said. I've actually been waiting since the end of Feb. similar to thermus. My optimism and patience will go downhill soon.