i got my JT Slam Pack it is really nice and it has a little pillow in it so it is really comfy and great for slides. It also is a 4 and the tubes lay horizontially, they stay in there nice and tite, but when you want them, the pull right out. it is also very compact and doesnt stick out of the sides like some of the other vertical packs i have played with. Hands down this is the best pack for your money. i only spent $40 on it!!!
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