** Potential Superbolt Problem Please Read**

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  • AGD
    The man from AGD

    • Oct 2000
    • 5916

    #1

    ** Potential Superbolt Problem Please Read**

    Superbolt owners,

    We have just become aware of a potential problem with the current batch of Superbolts. Thanks to posts here and a couple phone calls we think the Superbolt sleeves are .015 too long. That's about half a matchbook cover.

    They were made the same over all length as our all stainless bolts but the nose in the stainless sticks out .015 further than the body. When the body is extended this .015 big paint can hang up in the breach.

    We are working on a solution to trim them down. The current batch we have in house is being trimmed before shipment. If you have one that is chopping please standby while we sort it out.

    If you feel confident you can just sand the face down evenly until you just barely see the sleeve sticking into the breach.

    Warp feed and small paint users will probably not see the problem.

    Sorry about this, it just slipped by.

    AGD
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  • Russ
    Senior Membrane
    • Jul 2001
    • 1935

    #2
    After reading Arand's post, I measured my new superbolt, and it is, in fact, .015" longer than my stock E-Mag bolt (1.855" vs 1.840")

    Sooo, I sanded the face down, using emery paper (320, then 400, then 600 grit) The overall length of the superbolt is now 1.84"

    But both bolts protrude 1/32" past the edge of the feed hole in the barrel. Is this normal? It's the same with my H/L body.
    Last edited by Russ; 12-19-2001, 02:00 AM.

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    • Arand
      Registered User
      • May 2001
      • 64

      #3
      I guess I'll try to sand that sucker down. Don't have access to a belt sander. Anyone know if delrin is tough to
      sand by hand? I'd rather not mess with it if i'm not fully confident that it will come out perfect.

      Arand

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      • AGD
        The man from AGD

        • Oct 2000
        • 5916

        #4
        Yes it should stick out a hair into the breach, that is fine.

        DO NOT USE A BELT SANDER!!!!! You will burn off too much!!

        HAND SAND to correct length.

        AGD
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        • Xzion
          Official Dragon of AO
          • Jan 2001
          • 1617

          #5
          Well, it doesnt seem to bother my 'mag in the least, but then again, im a warp feed user so at least theres a good reason... im sure mine will work as is untill I need to replace the derlin sleeve

          Thanx for the heads up Tom

          Oh, and speaking of replacement derlin sleeves, are they availible yet? and how much will the be approx?

          Thanx again

          View My Mags

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          • Russ
            Senior Membrane
            • Jul 2001
            • 1935

            #6
            I have a piece of steel, ground flat, that I put the emery paper on. Then I pull the bolt across it, and rotate the bolt 90deg or so each time. It only took me a few minutes, but I have a lot of experience doing this kind of stuff.

            A table with a glass surface works well, also. Calipers are a must to be sure how much you take off.

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            • Arand
              Registered User
              • May 2001
              • 64

              #7
              Got it!

              Hand sand it is. I'll shoot a case through it this weekend and report.

              Arand

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              • DiRTyBuNNy
                Registered User
                • Sep 2001
                • 4854

                #8
                I'm tool inept so would it be ok for me to send mine in?
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                • damageinc54
                  Machinist
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 1324

                  #9
                  I will have to check mine out. I have mine in my EMag. I have chopped a few but I just figured I was out shooting it. I will check mine out and report back. I am a Machinist and I am more than willing to help any of you guys out that need some help with your bolts. You can sand down delrin very easily. Get your hands on a piece of about 400 grit sand paper or some krokus cloth and just sand it evenly.
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                  • LawFox32
                    Registered User
                    • May 2001
                    • 1360

                    #10
                    Regular Foamieless Bolt

                    My regular bolt sticks out, but only like the nose of the thing, Is that okay?

                    Just checking

                    Richmond

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                    • PRO_Ski101

                      #11
                      Hey Tom, I ordered my around 2 weeks ago.Were they like this then,Becuase i have experienced som ball breaks but i just figured that i was shooting to fast for my hopper.Also,If I buy a new sleeve will it fix the problem??

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                      • dogEmedic
                        Fluff Your Garfield
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 240

                        #12
                        Darn it I just got my superbolt and I have the chopping problem, sad to say but me and tools don't get along to well. I hope comes up with a easy fix

                        Alan

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                        • Dave
                          The Neighborhood Tech
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 815

                          #13
                          YES!!! I just saw this post and was still posting on the "Major Superbolt Problem" post. Thanks Tom for making an announcement and addressing the issue. Actually, my gun should arrive at the tech dept. of AGD today so I should think it wouldn't be a problem for me to get a little sand down on the sleeve or a new sleeve?

                          Again...thank you!

                          -Dave

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                          • efdff
                            firefighter
                            • May 2001
                            • 347

                            #14
                            For those with the above problem, are you guys chopping paint all the time ?

                            To all you guys who have had problems with your superbolt, are you chopping paint all the time ? I've got a superbolt and have noticed that I'm breaking paint but it doesn't seem to be more than what I broke with the stock bolt, and the breaks are down the barrel, and not where the ball drops down from the powerfeed into the breach/barrel. I've only shot RP Premiums and Diablo Blaze so it's not like I'm shooting small paint only.
                            9-11-01 * FDNY * 343 * NEVER FORGET







                            FS : Polished Emag Hopper Right Powerfeed Body

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                            • efdff
                              firefighter
                              • May 2001
                              • 347

                              #15
                              I've also noticed that every once and a while my bolt hangs up and I get the air rushing down the barrel when I first gas up my gun. Could this be caused by the superbolt being too long ? Maybe hanging up on the nubbin ? I've already gone to a shorter powertube spacer and it helped but it still does it occasionally.
                              9-11-01 * FDNY * 343 * NEVER FORGET







                              FS : Polished Emag Hopper Right Powerfeed Body

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