** Potential Superbolt Problem Please Read**

[dogEmedic]

her is a little info from me, it's 11pm and so I can't put any paint through my gun without the cops showing up but I did a bounce test.

I used brass eagle (sorry that's all I have right now I need money for gifts).

ball bounce
1-- 1
2-- 1
3-- 4
4-- 2
5-- 2
6-- 6
7-- 2
8-- 1
9-- 3
10-- 1

On sunday I will try to get some good paint and do another bounce test.
I also shaved a little off the superbolt and when I hooked up my hopper to my gun with no barrel and the superbolt installed it fed without any problems, don't know if that helps at all.

Alan

[DrEvil]

I got a superbolt from the online store, I assume it was from the batch that had the .015" differance. Well I played today and no problems. One ball break from my cousin shortstroking the gun. No recoil, no breaks, no jams, no sticks, no problem. I love this thing.

[dogEmedic]

Good morning all I put a few rounds through my gun today and here are my results.

68 automag, chrome intelliframe, ss lapco bigshot, crossfire 68 stub with just over 1000psi left and left over brass eagle paint (see above for bounce test from same batch).

reg bolt - 10 paintballs no breaks at whatever speed I pulled the trigger.

superbolt - 10 paintballs first one was fine second only fell halfway into the gun. It took a little bit of effoert to push it in with a pencil ereaser.

sanded superbolt - I have no tools to see how much I took off but I did a dozen or so swipes on 320 grit sandpaper. Made sure tip was smooth and had same same results as above.

This may sound stupid but to me it seems like the paintballs don't go as far when I use the superbolt, it's like they dropoff much sooner then with the reg bolt.

Hope this helps you a little Tom

Alan

[Dave]

You know, I think there is a prob with just the face of the bolt as well. When my mag + superbolt was chopping, I would take one ball at a time, and roll each one into the breach to make sure they were all the way in there, and still would break a lot. My paint was PMI premium, with a bounce test was between 1-2, pretty poor, with most balls getting zero, actually about half. But a friend shot that same terrible paint today through his spyder he got for Christmas, and didn't break a single ball in over 200-300 rounds. Is it that a mag is just harsher with balls?

-Dave

[Omicron]

hmmm

i'm pretty sure its just the face of the bolt. that cup type of face is on my sidekick too, i think im gonna put a foamie on the bolt on my sidekick and see how it goes. Tom, if we have breaks like this (not chops) can you send us the longnose type of sleeve? Maybe you should sell them with the longnose type of sleeve and theer won't be as many breaks? my superbolt i ordered on Wednesday (dec.19) and i dont know if its been shipped out. If not, could you send me a superbolt with a longnose type face on the bolt? (i have a AGD Longnose bolt and have no chops with it, others may want to buy the foamie type, but for me the longnose type is good)

Thanks!

[AGD]

If necessary we will retrofit everyones bolts with rubber foamie tips.

AGD

[X-Plosive]

sucks for you people, I've gone through 3 cases without a single chop or break. All inferno, PMI premium and some viper venom. I'm surprised.

[Russ]

Tom,

I'm going to try and pick up some foamies this coming week. I'll see if that has a positive effect on the ball breakage.

What adhesive do you suggest? The Delrin may be too slick.

Thanks,
Russ

[SGT FURY]

my superbolt was too fat on the end to go through my main body.also i didnt notice if it was too long, i didnt look because i saw this post before i ordered. i used 400 grit and sanded the outside of the tip once it would slide into my body i tied it with about 50 rounds of voodoo.not a single break. 2000psi ,freak,68 classic,intelliframe,richoche hopper.i didnt notice if distance was affected but my accuracy was drastically improved.i havent tried my emag yet.....will try tonite.

[Arand]

AGD,

Been on vacation so I didn't post earlier. Here's the bounce test numbers --


GA Blaze
1 1 2
2 5 2
3 3 5
4 1 3
5 6 8
6 5 3
7 6 4
8 3 2
9 6 5
10 3 3

The deviation is pretty wide it seems. As I mentioned before, this was a mixed bag of leftovers. I haven't had a chance to use the bolt with fresh paint yet.

Arand

[sifu01]

backorder

I was wondering on an ETA for the modified superbolts to ship?

Thanks

[dogEmedic]

Hello everybody, got some diablo midnight today and I thought I would post my results. Same setup as above but I tried both my lapco bigshot and autospirit with plastic nubbins. With the superbolt and midnights it would load 1 1/2 paintballs instead of 1 and I was still chopping balls like mad. Switched over to me reg bolt and had no probs.

ball bounce
1--- 4
2--- 4
3--- 2
4--- 6
5--- 2
6--- 1
7--- 1
8--- 4
9--- 3
10-- 2

[Arand]

dogEmedic,

If you're loading 1 1/2 paintballs, you need to adjust you nubbins. It's not a superbolt problem. I've had some minor problems with really small balls + plastic nubbins combo. You could try putting some tape on the outside of your nubbins so that when you screw in your barrel, the nubbins will protrude into the barrel more.

The plastic nubbins are really nice. As long as you don't use super small balls, I've had zero problems.

Arand

[dogEmedic]

Arand,

I was going to try something like that, i was even going to try a wire nubbin for a couple shots to see if their was any difference. When i used the normal bolt i did'nt have that feed problem. I was able to rip off a whole hopper with the old bolt with plastic nubbins with no breaks, but with the superbolt only three balls.
It's kinda tough to compare (sp) diablo paint to brass eagle but it's funny that brass eagles (i know their large bore) would not feed after the first shot, and midnights would feed 1 1/2 after the first shot.

Alan

[headcase7212]

I know that this is a little off the topic but I was wondering, what a superbolt is actually supposed to do? I cant seem to find a good explination.