Ripped off and MAD!!!

**personman** · 05-06-2004, 05:18 AM

Yep, there it is, plain as day.

I hope you get him, bro, what a stupid thing to do.

**BRIAN AGD** · 05-06-2004, 01:09 PM

sorry man i hate seeing ppl get riped off like that...the reg looks good .call crossfire and ask 4 chris havlock tell him what happon ..tell him its a crossfire tank maybe he will give u a deal on a tank ..u will have 2 send your reg to him or just send the whole tank to him and let them take a look and see if the tank is unsafe to use ,,,hope this helps ..tell him i told u 2 call ...

**Steelrat** · 05-06-2004, 01:59 PM

Contact the buyer of the impulse and tell him what happened. Hopefully he will be reasonable enough to realize that he too may be getting screwed. That seems to be your best leverage on the punk. Did you already file a fraud claim with paypal or your CC company? You need to do it RIGHT NOW so that paypal can intercept the money before he clears his account out.

I also like the "talk to his parents" approach. That sometimes works, though if he is this lacking in moral fiber, you have to wonder about how he was brought up.

**frgood** · 05-06-2004, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Tunaman

Gibberish? When I was growing up, people that talked like that were sent to a "Special Place"...with "special friends".

But they did get to ride that cute little bus!

I'm sorry I couldn't resist.

**dj89** · 05-06-2004, 03:42 PM

Comment From Date / Time Item #
iPAIDdayAFTsaleheTRIEDtoTAKEbackITEMaftSALE,thenSE NTitemBROKEN, BEWARE!!!!!!!!!! Buyer macster-jbs( 28) Apr-18-04 13:47 3670266777
Reply by raysdoggs: he put this there because i gave him bad feed back he well not pay you
if i saw that i would not buy any way................... good luck tho

**68magOwner** · 05-06-2004, 03:47 PM

similar thing just happened to me, i bought the tank, the seller says its good till '07 and is in great condiditon, i get it, the tank is only good till '05 as clearly stated on the tank, and the reg is missing 1/4 of the top part (where o-ring goes) it seems liek this will make a HUGE leak if i use it, but the seller says no, im going to try it out this weekend, and luckily, i have an extra reg if it does screw up.... but about the hydor, he claims "the guy i bought it from said it was good till '07, and i dont know how to tell hyrdo dates" yes, the guy is a pbn'er but he owns a viking and several tanks, i SERIOUSLY doubt that he cant read a hydro date

**oneworld** · 05-06-2004, 03:57 PM

sorry

WOW! what you have there is a 170$ hunk of steel

**ZapTheMad** · 05-27-2004, 10:47 PM

Paypal is a joke. Thier claims of "buyer protection" are a bunch of hogwash. I've been paying for a premier account far to long. I got ripped off and they won't do anything about it regardless of how much money they've made of my transactions.

I don't have the tank, it was sent back to him.

I don't have the money, he won't refund it.

I'm screwed...

If this was my visa card all I have to do is dispute the charges and they give me my money back first and sort out the details later. Paypal customer service blows huge chunks.

I downgraded my paypal account today because I'm tired of paying them 3% of every transaction to get this so called "protection". I get the same level of "protection", which is basically nothing, on a standard account and it's free. So what if I can't take credit card payments. Everyone has a bank account attached to thier paypal for verification anyway.

My last resort is to file a fraud claim with ebay tommorow. Since they are the same company as paypal, I am having doubts as to thier "buyer protection" too. Even if they do give me my money back, it will be less $25 and shipping. No matter what, I still lose. that is IF they do anything besides send me email saying they can't do anything.

Take this as a lesson from my mistakes.

Always fund your payments with a credit card. If something goes wrong, it's much easier to dispute the charges with the credit card company and get results much faster.

Don't bother with a paypal premier account. Buyer protection is pretty much a big bowl of rabbit droppings. Hard dry droppings at 3 cents a piece that don't swallow easily and they offer no glass of water. Even if they do honor a claim, they can only get back what the seller has in the account. If the account is empty, which it probably is since they just screwed you and immediately withdrew the money, you get nothing.

Never EVER pay with a money order because you get NO PROTECTION. Sure, you can prove that you paid with a receipt, but what can you really do about it? Drive across the country to file a lawsuit that's going to cost more in travel expenses than what you originally paid for the item?

Be very careful about what you buy. If the auction description is vague, there is a reason for it and you will find out the hard way. Never buy from sellers with low feedback.

Always remember, DTA.

"Don't Trust Anyone"

The worst part is that I can't close my paypal account like I really want to. I still want to do business over the internet and there is nothing else available.

**Rev_Shocker** · 05-27-2004, 11:32 PM

Just so you know, Ebay just revoked his status, it's now suspended. Sorry about your tank bro, I hope everything works out.

See you in the middle!

**AGDlover** · 05-28-2004, 12:06 AM

ya call crossfire and see if you can get a new bottle

**ZapTheMad** · 05-28-2004, 03:22 AM

His account has been suspended for a long time now.

**datapimp69** · 05-28-2004, 10:15 AM

dude,

just in case you cant back at him, you maybe able to get it fixed.

i use http://www.hydrotester.com for my tanks and from there site

We repair scratched, dented and dinged bottles. If we cannot repair the bottle to pass a
hydro, we don't charge you for either the repair or hydro. Just the $5.00 return shipping charge.
Call first for advice. The Hydrolab loves to talk to any player in the US and Canada. All repairs
are $5.00. Aluminum bottles are never repaired... sorry. Just the HPA fiber wrapped.

you may want to give it a try as they dont charge if they cant fix it.

**teufelhunden** · 05-28-2004, 12:58 PM

https://www.ifccfbi.gov

FBI's internet fraud division. They helped me resolve something, it's worth a shot.

Of course, this was after paypal screwed the pooch.

**ZapTheMad** · 05-28-2004, 02:21 PM

I've already filed a complaint with IFCC. how long did it take for them to caontact you? It's been a month and I haven't heard a word from them. From what i understand they only forward the information to the local authorities and it's up to them to do something. Remember, this is Arkansas. Us big city folk aren't welcome there. My ex-wife lives there now. She tried to run me over with her car and all the cops did was laugh at me.

I don't have the tank anymore. It was sent back to him.

**teufelhunden** · 05-28-2004, 02:23 PM

Hm. If they haven't got in touch with you, get in touch with the State Police and Attorney General of the state where the seller lives.