I invented a Paintball Marker!

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  • coolcatpete
    I have my e-mag back
    • Jun 2003
    • 1532

    #16
    I am also working on a body, however mine sucks cause I am not good at cad.
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    • kscullin
      the REAL Baron Bad Beaver
      • Mar 2004
      • 91

      #17
      Actually, blowback and boltless wouldn't be impossible. Difficult, maybe not cost effective, but not impossible.

      One example would be an articulated barrel with the barrel attached to the striker in a reciprocal manner (striker moves back, barrel moves forward and vice-versa). Might not work too well, but not impossible.
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      • Glickman
        *Insert Witty Phrase*
        • Sep 2003
        • 2673

        #18
        Originally posted by pekingduck04
        Ah mR Glick you are quite mistaken on many counts.

        Not to mention, dear sir, that you'v accidentally pointed yourself as a hypocrit! You notioned that the epic is blowback, boltless, AND swing open breech (which, by the way, only the second is true) and then proceeded to say that blowback and boltless cannot go together.

        Thank you, though, for introducing me to this trap-door design!

        Ah, money can always be worked out.

        ~Scott

        heh, no problem, but i didnt realize that the epic was acually considered blowback, because it didnt appear that anything was actually.. well.. getting blown back...

        soi was assuming that the epic wasnt considered blowback c..

        so i didnt note anything really, jus tthat it sounds like and epic...

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        • Automaggin2
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 2506

          #19
          Originally posted by kscullin

          One example would be an articulated barrel with the barrel attached to the striker in a reciprocal manner (striker moves back, barrel moves forward and vice-versa). Might not work too well, but not impossible.

          Wait, kinda sounds like a Nova 700. Well, it used a articulated barrel but it was a spool valve design
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          • pekingduck04
            You got a Passion
            • Mar 2004
            • 37

            #20
            This took foreveR

            Well.. I'm not particularly interested in marketing an actual product or even making money from it. I am far too young, and too busy with learning to put much effort into this. I just want to see my creation lifted from paper and moulded into a real marker, to signify my success. Perhaps some acknowledgement would be appreciated, too :) .

            So.. that being cast aside, I will share with you.

            This must be brief, because I have a prom to attend tomorrow, and the three days following I will be basking contently in the jellyfish and seaweed mutations at Galveston.

            Steps to the operation of this marker:
            1) as usual, regulated air waits patiently in a volume chamber.
            2) Now.. the trigger is pulled and the sear releases a hammer. Spring tension, which regulates velocity, forces the hammer forward to strike a valve. The harder the valve is struck the greater the volume of gas allowed into the chamber. In a blowback marker, the volume of air pushes the hammer right back where it came from, while at the same time traveling up thru the interconnected bolt and firing a paintball. The hammer is caught by the sear, and you may repeat. This is nothing new.
            3) My invention has no bolt. The moving parts in it you could say resemble that of a cocker (IVG and all). Now.. The hammer does two thing; it not only strikes a valve to release air, but depresses the rear of a sort of.. "mini sear". when this sear is depressed it pushes a pin inside an on/off valve to open.

            Okay recap: from left to right.. is air chamber, valve, second chamber, hammer with sear, spring, threaded adjuster. On top of the second chamber is a sideways on/off valve, with a spring to close it when pressure is released. Near the rear of the hammer (so that it is depressed only when the gun is cocked) is a small angled, smoothed steel end of a mini sear, which when depressed opens the on/off.

            Continuing..
            4) When you fire, and the hammer is released, the on/off valve is closed by its little spring, so the air released by the main valve has no choice but to force the hammer back as quickly as possible to cocked position. The moment the hammer is back and depresses the end of the mini sear, the on/off valve is opened, sending that furious volume of air up.
            5) The volume of air travels up and into a chamber that converts its motion forward to push on a waiting paintball, held in place by detents both before and aft. Out the barrel and into a swearing teammate it goes!

            Get it?? This is tough to put into words.

            Okay.. now many questions are quickly aroused.
            1) Why the on/off? This should promptly eliminate the rediculous spring tension/pressure in waiting air chamber balance that would come by just drilling a hole straight up in the main chamber.
            2) Timing? The "mini sear end" must be placed in the right spot where it can open the on/off once enough momentum is achieved to send it's hammer friend hurdling far enough to be caught by the main sear.
            3) Fitting? Space management may be difficult, but is achievable. The sear and on/off have only the lateral room of slighter more than the throw of the hammer. The hammer itself must maintain a shorter throw and wider face to allow faster cycling.
            4) Maintenance? The breech area, "mini sear", and on/off valve are placed in the very center of the marker... how would I possibly get to them? Since the top half of the gun consists only of barrel threading, a breech, chamber to redirect air flow, feed tube, and detents, it is very possible to carve it in a way that it can be "opened like a book", like angel breeches. But in this case nearly the entire top half is folded (with the exception of the threading, which remains fixed). Rubber fitted into milled grooves along the edges will ensure that the chamber is airtight when shut. When the chamber is opened it will allow proper cleaning of all the above mentioned parts, and the on/off and mini sear as well. See when the chamber is shut, it puts pressure on a pin that keeps the sear in place (like a ULE body to a sear in a mag rail). Pressure is also placed on the edges of the on/off. With the chamber folded open you should be able to just dump these two into your hand.
            5) Wouldn't you dirty up the on/off if you chopped a ball!? No bolt.. how the hell would you chop a ball? If by some unusual circumstance the detent chops it the moving air should keep the valve clean.
            6) Would there be much blowback gas? nothing out of the ordinary.
            7) Won't the marker operate slow!?.. since it fires upon reset, not upon strike? No. Blowbacks are lightning fast, and the internals of this gun should allow it to cycle slightly faster. The time it takes for the hammer to strike and reset is so minute that it would not be noticeable.


            I hope I have covered everything in my mind at the moment, though I really do feel I've forgotten something. If by chance I do recollect I will post immediately.

            Guys I am completely open to criticism! Questions? Problems? Tell me now!!!

            ~A very exhausted Scott
            Last edited by pekingduck04; 05-14-2004, 05:08 PM.
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            • pekingduck04
              You got a Passion
              • Mar 2004
              • 37

              #21
              Ah.. images speak far louder than words. I will certainly post one, but you must allow me until after my prom extravaganza to do so!

              ~Scott again
              The heart has reasons that reason does not understand.


              I'm one of the baddest mother fudgers of all time...
              one of the best singers and one of the best lookin mother fudgers you ever seen...

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              • shivors
                Spyder fan since '96
                • Sep 2002
                • 299

                #22
                Heres what ya do. Get a protoype hammered out...now the next step is crucial, have pictures taken with half naked chicks and put them in magazines. Next get 20-30 kids to troll forums screaming about how great it is. Then...spread a rumor or two about a well known team switching to your new uber marker.


                You would sell a gazillion! A GAZILLION I SAY!!!!

                Watch...


                Hey...I am new here but I have to say somehting about the new Pekduck 04. It doesnt have a bolt and I get 4000 shots out of a 9oz CO2 tank. I blows the Angel out of the water!!!! BOOM!!!

                It weighs 1LB and is SUPER accurate! It has japanese electronics that read you brain waves!!!!! I shot a friends and I shot all 50 people on the other team in like a minute. It so fast...like a machine gun

                They are soon to ship so pre-order and get a free kitten, afree stick, and a picture of a Reloader B!
                Just add some more grammatical errors and copy/paste. Remember...a GAZILLION!

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                • PevsBalla89
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 30

                  #23
                  how is the breech sealed so that the gas doesnt just go straight into the hopper??

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                  • dwab3000
                    im not wearing any pants
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1072

                    #24
                    sounds sorta what im doing, except mines not boltless, but it is blowback and has a removeable breech (that im making interchangable w/ angles)

                    mine also has trigger frames, that are adjustable w/o elcectronics...thats sweet

                    this design has a patent pending, so btfo...msg me to find that one out...he he he
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                    • Athius
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 533

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pekingduck04
                      Ah patents take so very long.. just look at the hAir trigger. I am eighteen of age, therefore I am ambitious, optimistic, but tremendously impatient! I sincerely hope the design itself will overshadow my inexperience and lack of resources.


                      ~Scott
                      Well u can do this:

                      1. get an envelope.
                      2. put the blueprints inside the envelope.
                      3. mail it to yourself.
                      4. went it arrives DONT open the envelope.
                      5. Store the envelope with the blueprints inside.
                      6. If someone steals your idea sue him and take out the envelope with the blueprints inside as evidence and ull win the case since it says in the stamp the date, month and year that it went into the post office.

                      That's how u patent somethin for 32 cents.

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