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  • mixmastermike
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10

    #1

    importance of backmen

    i have only been playing for a year or so, and i've alwaysed wondered if the backmen were really neccesary. on a 3-man team i understand how important that can be, but on a 5-man and definitly a 10-man team, how important are they really. post anything you wish to as long as its about backmen...
  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #2
    best way to see this, try a game in practice with none. Good backplayers are important for communication, cohesion (working as a unit) and general cover. They may nto get the eliminations but they help in almost every one. And I play front.. play with good backplayers and than poor backplayers and the difference is awesome
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    • xXhAppyAznXx
      Ken, Eagle Scout
      • Mar 2003
      • 2473

      #3
      ehh lets say their whole team were back men, and your whole team were front men

      you would never be able to stick your head out the bunker, meaning you wouldnt see anything going on in the field. without back players, you would have no idea where people are

      back players lay paint down to get people off your ***, and they can watch the field for you as you cant. they attempt to pick off as many people as possible on the break.

      with out back players, youd be screwed


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      • toyotaboy12
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        • May 2003
        • 3663

        #4
        back players are your eyes and ears on the field
        now how good would you be deaf and blind?
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        • Trunnion
          Electric Mayhem
          • Mar 2001
          • 237

          #5
          the back player should always be the LAST man out. he's the team spotter. i play aggressive back, and i'm supposed to keep an eye on the opposing team members and call them to my mid and front players, while at the same time try to suppress the opposing back players so they can't do the same. i also try to eliminate players making aggressive moves on my frontmen. that being said though, there's no reason an back player can't be involved in the game directly. sometimes the best vantage point isn't in the back standup, but on the 20 line just a bit further up. and even playing back i've managed to get a few bunkers when the tables turn on the opposing team
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          • tony3
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            • Feb 2003
            • 3740

            #6
            I personally think, in a 5man game, you could pretty much have no front guys, and still do good if you can lock all the lanes and shoot enough paint to hold them in. In 3man back is the most important position imo. My team usually has all 3 guys shooting off the break hoping to get 1 guy atleast, its much easier to start a game 3 on 2. Its been working good for us, last 5 tourneys we've made semis, and won 2 of them. Back is, in my opinion, the most important position on the field. You can play a game with a bunch of back and mid guys, try to do the same with only fronts and mids...

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            • Target Practice
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              • Nov 2003
              • 3180

              #7
              It seems to me that the more paint you are able to put into an opposing team, the better. The backmen help to achieve this "suppression fire", or whatever you want to call it. Also, you wouldn't want your entire team at the 50, right? I mean, you would have to spread them out deep; this allows you to maintain better control of the field as well. While they are back there, you might as well load up up with a case of paint and let then rain it down on our opponents. I'm new to the whole non-recball side of paintball, but think that back men are an extremely important part of any size team.


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              • phantomhitman
                ao's official bad guy
                • Oct 2003
                • 1841

                #8
                i can agree that the back players are the most important. its kind of liek the offensive line for football. they get it done on the field and hardly ever get rewarded, gotta love them!!!
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                • Gideon1331
                  Im back for now...
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3255

                  #9
                  2 backs on left and right AND one snake/tape runner

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                  • mixmastermike
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10

                    #10
                    thanks with that. I have noticed before that a back player can make the difference in the game. i started to question this because i watched a team last weekend that used middies as back players, or at least i thought. really the backman had just moved up some. please keep up with this post and if you have any ideas on how to use backmen differently, post em'.

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                    • Lohman446
                      Useful posts: 7
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9315

                      #11
                      On the five man team my backplayer (the one that plays the tape line I am on) will often stack the snake with me and prove very effective - this generally happens when we have basically "stalemated" positions against teh other team, I have seen him in front of me before and work very very well as noone sees it coming.

                      I have also see this fail though, as we both looked in once, left the tapeline exposed and well had the forseeable results...
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                      • Trunnion
                        Electric Mayhem
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 237

                        #12
                        backs can be aggressive when the situation calls for it. and a backman doesn't have to dump hopperloads of paint on hoppers to keep guys in. i typically shoot 100-150 balls a game as aggressive back and we do pretty well. i'd probably shoot less than that, but our other back players weren't there so we were playin 1 back, 1 mid, and 3 front. i was averaging one elimination a game, and in one game we had a 4 on 1 so i took the plunge and ran down the field like a jackass and bunkered the last guy. my favoritist move of my (limited) paintball career
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                        • mixmastermike
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 10

                          #13
                          now i know that backmen are neccesary for an effective team because of the comunication. i also understand that they can be aggressive if called for. next point, if backmen can see the whole field and provide information to the front, how exactly is the middie contributing to the team besides the occasion elimination??? i have seen good middies go straight up with the front guy, this seems to help more than if he stays middie...

                          by the way, i play front

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                          • Havoc_online
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                            • Feb 2002
                            • 2851

                            #14
                            imo - Back players are as important as paint.

                            As least when your playing against teams that got their poop together.
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                            • notcreative
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 451

                              #15
                              Just remember GOOD back palyers yes are suppose to communicate and be able to shoot lanes perfect but the back player should also be able in a game if needed to switch to mid player or if really needed a front player that makes a good back player when he can switch in and out of his role during the game

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