URGENT HELP NEEDED!! (Smart Parts Related) PLEASE READ!!!

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  • pbspectre
    ....violence fetish....
    • Aug 2003
    • 64

    #1

    URGENT HELP NEEDED!! (Smart Parts Related) PLEASE READ!!!

    sorry for the caps in the title, but time is short...here's the deal:


    Several months ago, i (along with many of my fellow AKA owners) sent an email to the Dept. of Justice's Anti-Trust Division about the current Smart Parts situation...after getting a standard "the information has been sent to the appropriate staff member" email, i figured nothing was going to come of it...

    then, out of the blue yesterday, i get a call from a DOJ lawyer who wants to discuss the situation with me at length over the phone!!! i was suprised to say the least...lol...


    He's going to call me back Tuesday at 2:30pm Central to further dicuss the situation...between now and then i need to get a very clear picture as to exactly what i want to say and, this is most important, exactly what the facts are...

    so, anyone in a position to know what's really and factually going on, i need to know what i should tell him...i need to have a very clear position to relate to him...

    i also posted this on PBNation here

    i'm still kinda in shock about the whole thing and i'm pretty nervous because i want to make the best impression i can...

    i can be contacted here, on PBNation, or by email ([email protected])


    this is a great opportunity to get our displeasure at the unethical/possible illegal actions of Smart Parts heard by someone who can actually do something about it and i want to make the most of it...
    Bringing The Violence Since 1983

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  • dwab3000
    im not wearing any pants
    • Mar 2004
    • 1072

    #2
    hmmm, well your dealing with a multi million dollar corperation, so have fun

    remember, they will hit you when your down, so do the same back

    now, they are gonna go through everything they can, so you do the same...

    be sneaky, dont let your gaurd down, and have fun


    give em hell, cause i want an x-mag time to get agde to get one more bodies now


    also for those who dont understand this, he is takin on SP because they made a patent (to protect their electronic markers) then they made the patent even broader by adding more (the more are any electro marker using any on/off switch, which include microswitches, and beam break eyes), by doing this they are stunting the devolopment of new technology, which is againt the law



    be careful
    Last edited by dwab3000; 05-15-2004, 10:04 AM.
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    • Butterfingers
      PhD in Automagology
      • Jan 2001
      • 2263

      #3
      The most important thing is to discusse the sneaky underhanded way they obtained the patent. Doc's pages do a great job of explaining this.
      Did you hear about the new european weapons contracts? France is going to make the wooden sticks Spain making the little white flags

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      • shadowfalcon78
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        • Dec 2003
        • 347

        #4
        UP !!!!

        This could be crucial to the fight against Smart Parts ! Perhaps Tom could chime in ?
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        • Fred
          AO Zealot
          • Feb 2002
          • 2624

          #5
          get in touch with Aaron at AKA and try to get him in on a conference call...
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          • dj89
            2003 Chevy 2500HD
            • Mar 2003
            • 4275

            #6
            wow let see what happens
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            • spasticsquirrel
              Registered User
              • Nov 2003
              • 223

              #7
              yes, i know they have the patent, but to my understanding, patents have to be something new, and orginal, and really never though of before. Common, i would have though of a electronic trigger. I would just not know how to trip the sear. I hear of something like there were electro markers dating back before smart parts, but i dont have proof.
              I wanna X-mag, but im too poor.

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              • Chojin Man
                toodle
                • Dec 2003
                • 1229

                #8
                This site has a lot of info on it.....



                This is the USN patent from the same site.


                Which I believe establishes prior art for a electronicaly fired pneumatic marker.

                Good luck!
                Last edited by Chojin Man; 05-15-2004, 09:19 PM.

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                • pbspectre
                  ....violence fetish....
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 64

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fred
                  get in touch with Aaron at AKA and try to get him in on a conference call...
                  i thought of that, but AKA may not be able to say anything about the situation because of non-disclosure agreements that were probably part of the agreement with Smart Parts...

                  i PM'ed Dan Voils (Auctionjunkie! on PBN) and he said he'd do what he could, but said the AKA folks themselves probably won't be able to say much because of NDA's...Dan is kind of in a grey area, though...he's close with the Alexanders and spends a decent amount of time at the factory(from what i understand, at least) but he doesn't offically work for AKA, thus is probably not covered under the NDA...

                  i'm currently trying to familiarize myself with the patents in question...


                  one thing i definately need to know is the full story of the relationship between PnueVentures and Smart Parts and exactly what happened with the original Shocker...
                  Bringing The Violence Since 1983

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                  • AGD
                    The man from AGD

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 5916

                    #10
                    Call me in the afternoon on Monday. Tell Joann its about the SP case and I told you to call.

                    AGD
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                    • jewie27
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2001
                      • 1275

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pbspectre
                      sorry for the caps in the title, but time is short...here's the deal:


                      Several months ago, i (along with many of my fellow AKA owners) sent an email to the Dept. of Justice's Anti-Trust Division about the current Smart Parts situation...after getting a standard "the information has been sent to the appropriate staff member" email, i figured nothing was going to come of it...

                      then, out of the blue yesterday, i get a call from a DOJ lawyer who wants to discuss the situation with me at length over the phone!!! i was suprised to say the least...lol...


                      He's going to call me back Tuesday at 2:30pm Central to further dicuss the situation...between now and then i need to get a very clear picture as to exactly what i want to say and, this is most important, exactly what the facts are...

                      so, anyone in a position to know what's really and factually going on, i need to know what i should tell him...i need to have a very clear position to relate to him...

                      i also posted this on PBNation here

                      i'm still kinda in shock about the whole thing and i'm pretty nervous because i want to make the best impression i can...

                      i can be contacted here, on PBNation, or by email ([email protected])


                      this is a great opportunity to get our displeasure at the unethical/possible illegal actions of Smart Parts heard by someone who can actually do something about it and i want to make the most of it...
                      Setup a tape recorder on the phoneline

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                      • spasticsquirrel
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 223

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AGD
                        Call me in the afternoon on Monday. Tell Joann its about the SP case and I told you to call.

                        AGD
                        looks like tom is eager to help
                        I wanna X-mag, but im too poor.

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                        • pbspectre
                          ....violence fetish....
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 64

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AGD
                          Call me in the afternoon on Monday. Tell Joann its about the SP case and I told you to call.

                          AGD
                          will do...



                          wow...i must say i never really expected to become this involved in the whole SP debacle...i'm not exactly an industry insider...i'm just a paintballer concerned about the direction our beloved sport and the industry that feeds is headed...Glen Palmer posted in the thread on PBN, so i think he's gonna help out with some information...i've also been in touch with Dan Voils, one of the AKA Master Techs...he's pretty close with the Aaron and the guys at AKA, but i'm pretty sure he doesn't actually work for them, so is not covered under and NDA's...

                          btw, Tom, what # do i call and any particular time you want me to call?


                          thanx for the help and encouragement everyone...
                          Bringing The Violence Since 1983

                          Need $$ for college...mask, cleats, pack, evil gloves F/S, non PB stuff too

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                          • Kevmaster
                            Owners Group Div: Director
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5475

                            #14
                            their office phone: (847) 520-7507

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                            • phantomhitman
                              ao's official bad guy
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1841

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AGD
                              Call me in the afternoon on Monday. Tell Joann its about the SP case and I told you to call.

                              AGD
                              whoa!!
                              uping this thread for paintballers everywhere.
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