Which would you take.... viking or matrix

[mark_426]

I assume he has the correct eye covers...

Can someone explain how to operate the board?

as well as weight/size of these markers

thanks

[LeatherPants]

I assume he has the correct eye covers...

Can someone explain how to operate the board?

thanks

Actually there are no productions Eye covers for the '03 Featherlight yet. DC has posted some prototypes but from what I've seen they are not for sale yet.

You're going to have to wait and buy the eye coves when they come out.

'03 Featherlights are 2 lbs 8 oz.

The manual will tell you how to operate the WAS board.

[mark_426]

do i need a datalink cable or anything?
is there a screen/lcd/led?
where/how do you turn it on?


will i NEED eyes?

thanks for all the help guys

[No sKiLLz]

No offense, Russ.

[Bulldog]

No offense, Russ.

None taken, everything you said was absoloutely true. In my case, at the time I bought my ST Bushy, it was the lightest electro in existence. So for the extra $, I felt (and still kind of do) feel like I got something for the extra money. The gun rips, you've shot it. The ST Bushy is the only gun of theirs I've ever considered worth the price tag. I was just bringing up my ownership to give weight to the arguement that ST stuff usually isn't worth the price tag.

[minimag187]

Get a DYE Matrix, Dm3 with the eyes..... insane speed, thats if you want a trix.

[LittlePaintballBoy]

As much as I love matrices, I would have to say Viking. BUT, I would probably rather have a matrix, just not that one over the FL. If you get a matrix for that much buy a used ACEd LCD or something, more bang for the buck.

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

The shocktech matrix is a load of BS. Nothing different about it except that it says shocktech on the side, it's not lighter or anything. What you should do is buy a Dye Matrix, SCM LPR, Sidewinder (or faveroite inline reg), Evolve bolt kit, nice barrel kit, ND breech, Hybrid frame and then get the matrix milled at www.demonguns.com. Not only will you have no kick at all, but you will also have a light and extremely fast gun (we're talking OMG I JUST CRAPPED ON MYSELF fast)

Just to give you some numbers:

Matrix BPS with Tadao 4.0 board: 25+ (you can reach around 23 if you have fast fingers and a fast loader)

Matrix Efficientcy with Evolve bolt kit: 2100+ shots per full 68/4.5k fill

Matrix weight with milling: between 2.9 and 3.2 lbs (got those numbers b/c ironman trix weighs 2.9 lbs, and milling is slightly heavier than ironman milling)

That setup (everything including milling + one color anodizing from xpb, excluding a barrel kit) will cost about (assuming matrix itself costs $825) $1544, or you can just find a used one to your liking for about 700 with most of the stuff I mentioned except for milling. Then you also can get a DM4 used for about $1000, but personally, I'd get a milled matrix over a DM4 because the DM4 has a lack of upgrade parts and still has a few very minor problems with the board. Try to find a used ironman matrix, they go for around 1200 and are extremely light and very nice.

[No sKiLLz]

The shocktech matrix is a load of BS. Nothing different about it except that it says shocktech on the side, it's not lighter or anything. What you should do is buy a Dye Matrix, SCM LPR, Sidewinder (or faveroite inline reg), Evolve bolt kit, nice barrel kit, ND breech, Hybrid frame and then get the matrix milled at www.demonguns.com. Not only will you have no kick at all, but you will also have a light and extremely fast gun (we're talking OMG I JUST CRAPPED ON MYSELF fast)

Just to give you some numbers:

Matrix BPS with Tadao 4.0 board: 25+ (you can reach around 23 if you have fast fingers and a fast loader)

Matrix Efficientcy with Evolve bolt kit: 2100+ shots per full 68/4.5k fill

Matrix weight with milling: between 2.9 and 3.2 lbs (got those numbers b/c ironman trix weighs 2.9 lbs, and milling is slightly heavier than ironman milling)

That setup (everything including milling + one color anodizing from xpb, excluding a barrel kit) will cost about (assuming matrix itself costs $825) $1544, or you can just find a used one to your liking for about 700 with most of the stuff I mentioned except for milling. Then you also can get a DM4 used for about $1000, but personally, I'd get a milled matrix over a DM4 because the DM4 has a lack of upgrade parts and still has a few very minor problems with the board. Try to find a used ironman matrix, they go for around 1200 and are extremely light and very nice.

Please don't. You are doing Matrix owners a disservice.

[GoatBoy]

I love this picture:

[mark_426]

is that an impulse at the end? (right)

[scribe]

nyx matrix! i'm thinking of getting an nyx trix myself after i've been deciding between that and a new shocker

[MMM]

Mark 426- you have access to an 04 DC Viking and not a Matrix? Wow, trixes are normally as ordinary and common as water out here. I have not shot a Matrix myself but as I understand it they shoot very "smooth" compared to the Viking but that it varies from Matrix to Matrix. They are also grossly inefficient compared to the Viking. Now to me that wouldn't be a problem since I don't pay for air but for the average joe that needs to be a consideration. Now back to the smooth part, that's a pretty relative statement and the only reason it makes sense to me is because my husband and I were discussing it and the way he described it was that it kind of felt like the marker wasn't actually shooting. It has it's pluses but I'm a back player and when I start unloading streams of paint I need some 'feel' to see if I'm skipping. I have played with cockers where the smack of the back block was a little too much feedback from the marker but it's all personal preference. Also keep in mind that, again, not all Matrix's have that same feel (I have at least 7 frriends that own/ed them and that was their comment).

[mark_426]

MMM

are those your initials by any chance?
and what do you personally shoot?

but anyway, i shot a naughty dog intimidator (played with it for a game), an xmag, 04 fly and an 04 DC viking, but i only know that there was one matrix at our field ever. odd isnt it?

its nice to not have any external parts, but its also nice seeing something move to make sure its working alright.

im pretty sure the viking is going to be mine..

thanks a lot!

[Steelrat]

The viking is a fine choice, just trust me when I say that eyes really transform the gun. Destructive customs is working on the covers to make it practical for your gun.