Deaths From Paintball!!!

[gorymonkey2]

On the news last night, i saw a thing about two deaths recently from paintball. It seems that when the two boys were unscrewing their CO2 tanks, instead of the regulators unscrewing from the bottomline, the bottle unscrewed from the regulator making the tank a deadly weapon in both instances striking the boys foreheads and killing them.
For the most part the people looking into this say that it was from people taking off the regulators and replacing the valves without using the proper adheisive making the tanks suseptable of coming off the regulator.
This seems to be quite a disturbing fact in the paintball industry, making manufactors much more on edge, since on of the boys mother's is attempting to sue the manufactor that issued her son the tank.
Please give your opinions on the subject, i want to see what other people than myself have to say about this. Feel free to express your opinions.

[BobTheCow]

Well both those cases you described were totally the fault of user error. I don't understand how, if all the facts were presented correctly, either tragedy could be seen as the result of carelessness on the part of any paintball company. Those deaths were, just like you said, because the kids were messing around with the tanks and didn't make it properly safe when they were finished. I'm not scared.

[JonDaAzn]

this happened a long time ago, nothing came of it

[ZapTheMad]

Can't say nothing came of it.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml04/04105.html

[Target Practice]

Those deaths were, just like you said, because the kids were messing around with the tanks and didn't make it properly safe when they were finished. I'm not scared.

If my memory serves me, those deaths were both due to the fact that whoever installed the aftermarket anti-siphon tanks did not replace the pin valve correctly. It was not "because the kids were messing around with the tanks." Greg (I think it was Greg... ) Palmer checked out the valves and the tanks in question and said that the installer didn't do it correctly. It wasn't the kids' fault.

[Destructo6]

One of those deaths was just a couple of months ago, in San Diego, iirc.

[Rather]

TP, correct sir!

They found that the guy dod something to the burst disk. As in it was sealed shut (instead of the burst disk for safety reasons) and the guy didn't tighen the tank back onto the valve proplery so when the kid went ot take that ank off, the asa was stuck in the threads and the tank came off of the asa. VERY bad.

A bunch of stories and news reports say the cali kid bought it off of ebay and used it as is (shoulda had it checked for working condition first), iirc.

The Moral- this is why you let people who know what they are doing do work on CO2 and HPA tanks. Don't go and try and mill them either. Don't be stingy or mr fix it when it comes to your tank (unless you are certified).

According to that CPSC thing they want you to draw a line on the asa and tank, enough so that you will be able to tell if they are beginning to seperate. Doubt everyone will do it, but its a good easy idea to make sure your tank isnt a dud.

[Recon by Fire]

Just cases of "user headspace & timing" or Darwinism in effect!

[tribalman]

Just cases of "user headspace & timing" or Darwinism in effect!

not to sound evil or anything, it's a sad time when anybody goes, but that remark was funny.

also, anybody have a link to a news story of those?

[ramennoodles]

thats what you get when you unscrew your tank in that manner, attached is a diagram.
I also have a serious diagram below that one.

[AGDlover]

but you have to relise the preasure that are in thoughs tanks they could have had it off a little bit and the preasure could have shot it but that does suck componeys should redesighn a new type of regulator so this wouldn't be a problem any more

[Beemer]

Here Ya Go

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125502&highlight=valve

quotes from that thread.......Know who???????????


"No other industry in the world uses inline threads the way we do because of this very problem. They all use some form of 90 degree fitting. Why we do I will not get into because I have vented enough in other threads today."

"Mounting the valve on a gun which is basically a two foot long lever and then diving into a bunker is an overall bad idea. Only ONE regulator on the market has a fail safe shut off if the reg breaks off."

[Destructo6]

Here's a link to a story on the February death:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/Living/Paintball_death_040228-1.html

[gc82000]

This is getting serious, my sis in DC said they might pass a bill about restricting PB. Oh yeah Sniper king, I am surprised you can spell your password correctly.

[RtDaNiMaL]

ya... that really sucks. the time that the mom got killed was differen than the two kids. The time that the mom got killed was like 3 1/2 months ago. it happened by my house. a paintball field that was like 30 min. away.