Q-Loader vs Warp

[SykoManiak]

For those of you who have used either the Q-Loader or AGD warp-feed (or both), which system do you guys like better? What are the pros and cons of each system? I am planning to buy one of them in a couple weeks so any input would be very appreciated (plz don't just answer which you like better.. lemme know what you liked and disliked w/ whatever you used).

Thanks in advance.

-SYko

[Chronobreak]

only used a warp and it worked great never had any problems and the q-loader is probably just as good in its own rights but it only holds 100 or so balls and can be time consuming and a pain to refill as opposed to a warp with 12 vlt revvy can hold near 210

[Thermus]

I'd go with the Q.

[Enemy]

the warp feed still uses gravity to feed through the hopper on top of it so it is next to impossible to get a long string with the gun inverted so much that the hopper isnt feeding.. q-loader relies on spring pressure so you can shoot the full thing with the gun upside down if you chose to do so but it only holds 100 rounds and during the time it takes you to load you are pretty much a sitting duck. so it comes down to which attribute you like best shoot anywhere anytime(q) or beable to reload and hold more paint at any given time(warp)

[teufelhunden]

May I ask why you aren't sticking with a regular hopper?

[i_baked_cookies]

the warp has so many downfalls. if your paint is to oily, itll slip on the discs. also, with my old warp, anything that went wrong did- battery cable came off the board, screws came out, etc. also, it makes your gun pretty heavy and bulky. The only advantage to the warp that i could see was a much smaller top profile. dont get warp, and try out a qloader on a gun to see how you like it.

[kosmo]

It really depends on your game I think. I used to have a warp back in the day. Well still have it, just dont run it anymore. It worked well for me when I used to play back because it really aided in giving me a clearer line of sight along the top of the gun and in shooting longer strings of paint. But after joining the army and becoming significantly more athletic and mobile, I stopped playing back, and coincidentally got used to a magazine style loading system with less ammo so I now prefer the Q.

[SykoManiak]

May I ask why you aren't sticking with a regular hopper?

Well, i would like to try playing w/ a smaller top profile since i usually get tagged on my hopper or mask so i'm sure it would help.. plus i like how ppl might think i'm just looking at them if they don't see a hopper sticking out of the bunker.. to me a little suprise goes a long way.

So far, i think i'm gonna go with the Q.. but it is a little pricey so i'm still not too sure.. but thanks for the responses guys and keep them comin!!

[AGDlover]

i have a warp the only problem i've had is not being able to switch to my off hand

[GoatBoy]

ph34r it:







I can't seem to find the 50-rounder that I use. I wonder if they discontinued it... maybe it's a collector's item now? I'd better hang on to it eh!

[durtysoufcraka]

Q's are real expensive and hard to find a high quality mounting option. they are lighter than the warp (no batteries and no hopper)...(also not as much paint is lighter) warp you can hold more paint is the main advantage. and you can still shoot while reloading.
how many times have you shot someone who was trying to bunker you while you were reloading. w/the Q there is no stack pressure when reloading so you are helpless. with the warp when you reload there are still a crucial 5-8 balls you can shoot. so more balls w/the warp and not a sitting duck while reloading.
-durty

*edit*the guy complaining about the off hand. why do you have to go offhand? lean. commonly called the "warp-lean"

[AGDlover]

*edit*the guy complaining about the off hand. why do you have to go offhand? lean. commonly called the "warp-lean"

well i'm a lefty and my right hand is that fastest but yes i do tilt and lean

[teufelhunden]

Well, i would like to try playing w/ a smaller top profile since i usually get tagged on my hopper or mask so i'm sure it would help.. plus i like how ppl might think i'm just looking at them if they don't see a hopper sticking out of the bunker.. to me a little suprise goes a long way.

So far, i think i'm gonna go with the Q.. but it is a little pricey so i'm still not too sure.. but thanks for the responses guys and keep them comin!!

Instead of spending a boatload of money on a Q or Warp, try tilting your hopper into the bunker. Plus, most hopper hits would end up being mask hits anyway if your hopper wasn't there.

[SykoManiak]

Instead of spending a boatload of money on a Q or Warp, try tilting your hopper into the bunker. Plus, most hopper hits would end up being mask hits anyway if your hopper wasn't there.

yeah, i see what you're saying.. but the warp or Q is a change of style that not only lowers ur top profile, but it also increases your line of sight over the gun by taking the hopper off the top. it's a slight change that i'm willing to try.

[Sk8ermog]

Well I have both right now and I just finish playing a few games with the Q-loader after taking off my warp feed. Here are my pros and cons of each:

WARP

PROS:
- Solid mounting option of either left or right of grip frame
- Can hook up to an Intelly frame to fire every time you pull the trigger
- Allows you to use a normal hopper
- Has very little ball breaks inside
- Won't force the balls where there is a jam or your not firing
- Fills in any spaces that your hopper might cause so there is a straight flow of paint
- Different colors to match the gun
- Solid design and well constructed (like all AGD products)
- Easy to clean and take apart
- Lets you shoot sideways or upside down (for playing in space)

CONS:
- Heavy
- Can't shoot left handed very well if it's mounted on the left
- Large target
- Can't feed the leftover balls in the hose after they leave the warp unit
- Uses batteries
- Makes noise every time you shoot
- Uses sound activation so if it doesn't feel or hear your gun it won't load
- You can only mount it on the left or right

Q-Loader

PROS:
- Very light and compact
- Insainly fast (30+bps)
- Mountable almost anywhere if you have enough hose
- Very simple design and operation
- Feels like a real clip for a gun
- Made of strong plastic
- Lowers profile more then the warp
- Allows you to shot right side, left side or even laying down (like in a snake it works great)
- Just a little bigger then a normal pod so you can carrey them in your pack
- Comes complete with everything you need so you don't have to add a hopper
- NO BATTERIES!
- Easy to clean up afterwards

CONS:
- ONLY HOLDS 100 BALLS!
- Takes a long time to load pods with paint
- If you miss adding 1 ball then it will missfire once when playing
- Forced the balls so hard that sometimes it loaded 2 balls at a time (at least on my micromag)
- Parts come out a little too easy and you can loose them
- Sometimes breaks paint when disconnecting the pods
- Uses really cheap plastic for the tubing
- Metal mounting bracket can scratch up the gun
- Has to click into place just right to engage correctly (hard to do in the middle of a game)
- Pods cost about $25 each so you can't throw them to the side
- Takes up a lot of time between games to get the pods ready
- Made from a new company with no reputation or background
- Takes some work to get it working right out of the box

Conclusions:
I've always love the idea of a warp like system where I can take the hopper off the top of my gun. I started out with a warp and then I just bought the Q-loaded. After playing with both I'd say the warp is much more user friendly and practical. The Q-loader is great if you are only going to be shooting 100 balls a game and have 10 minutes between games to reload your pods. If you carrey a pack with several pods out with you then you'll have to be reloading and carfully replacing the pods every few minutes.

I shoot about 100-200 rounds a game. I've never used a pack and I don't plan to anytime soon. I thought the Q-loader would be great for me. Then when it came down to me verse 3 guys and I had only 5 balls left... well it wasn't fun. I had to rock and roll each shot cause all the balls were in the tube and wouldn't feed. I ran out of paint 5 out of the 8 games I played. I hated haveing to call myself out because I ran out of paint.

If you use a pack and are used to loading up every few minutes then go for the Q-loader. It works great after you read the manual and tweak it a little bit. You do have to watch out for the random stuck pod that won't feed though. I was shakin it and doing everything I could till finally it just clicked and worked.

Check out the videos on the q-loader.com website to see how it works. I really does all the things it says it does like feed 30+bps and it's mountable almost anywhere. Just know that the ball limit will become a big deal no matter how much you shoot cause you'll have to reload sometimes and that take a lot longer then just loading up a hopper with a normal $2 pod you can throw around on the field.

I hope I've helped some of you. If you still have questions about either the warp or the Q-loader then email me. I'll post pictures on my collection page with me and my micromag w/ the Q-loader real soon. Later.

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