Are the Majority of Paintball Players Ricers at Heart?

[paint magnet]

Booyah - since your car is German, it can't be a Ricer, right? So what's that make it, a Kraut-er?

Personally, I prefer the nice '57 Chevy Bel Air sitting in my garage. 350 small block Chevy, Edelbrock 4 barrel, Hurst 4 speed, everything else pretty much stock, and it still hauls. (It will take off in 3rd gear with no problem, I've done it in 4th but it strains a little. Oh man, when it had the 396 in there... ) I'd like to see any rice rocket do that now, much less in another 47 years. By the way, James Bond drove a Bel Air convertable, can't say I've ever seen him in a Honda Civic though

[Hasty8]

I agree and disagree.

I think that at first the one-time player who becomes a convert and gets their own set-up will go for the glory but after a while it will subside.

Probably after they realise just how expensive it all is.

[ilikePB]

...for example a bud here in H-town has a turbo'ed 2l right at 460hp, he drives the car to work and gets about 32mpg. Completly streetable...

Bullsh*t!!!

He might have a 2L at 460hp(very, very, very doubtfull), but there is no way in hell that it's very streetable at all and it won't get 32mpg. Stop talking, you make yourself sound stupid.

Most people just add up the claimed hp gains from bolt ons and add it to the factory hp rating, doesn't work that way sorry.

[Magglerock]

"I've never heard of the term

but I take it refers to the Fast and the Furious crowd. But how did they become known as "Ricers"?

[Empyreal Rogue]

It's actually a derogatory statement. I think?

The term 'Imports' in Car-World means Cars from Japan.

Japanese are often times called "Rice" simply because a lot of Rice comes from Japan. That's where the derogatory-ness comes from. ***EDIT: This statement also refers to the rest of the Oriental World. China, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc., etc.

So a car from Japan, Import, is called a Ricer. How the term evolved from an Import to an Import with all show and no go I have no idea. But that's basically where the term comes from.

See Mango, I'm not ALWAYS crazy. :P

[Butterfingers]

460 HP isnt all that unreasonable in modern day TC/IC ed variants.

There are many stretable EVO 8's and WRX's that hit that point at 2l

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/videos/trp_8.9_incar.avi

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/videos/trp_8.9_incar.avi

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/551hpwrx.html

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/499hpwrx.htm

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/428hpwrxalfred.htm

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/466hpwrx.html

http://www.rigoliracing.com.au/esx_wrx.html

If you are talking about 3.0L turbos the toyota supra reigns king producing over 1000hp out of stock motor internals. The record for the streetable variants being close to 1400 hp on the 3 liter block on stock motor internals.

https://www.to4r.com

[Chris42050]

460 hp and 32 mpg. I almost fell off my chair laughing at that stupidity. Sorry to be harsh but that one is clearly rediculous and utterly impossible to accomplish at this time even with Hybrid technology. I hope for your sake you were being sarcastic. Its very hard to tell over the net. Anyway when it comes down 2 it with cars. Whatever you do to a small motor to get xtra power out of it you can do to a bigger motor. So how can you really argue that small is better. Only benefit to small motor is weight reduction in motor and usually overall car weight. Hp+torque-weight = speed.

If you dont have 8 dont step up to the pl8

[Butterfingers]

460 hp and 32 mpg. I almost fell off my chair laughing at that stupidity. Sorry to be harsh but that one is clearly rediculous and utterly impossible to accomplish at this time even with Hybrid technology. I hope for your sake you were being sarcastic. Its very hard to tell over the net. Anyway when it comes down 2 it with cars. Whatever you do to a small motor to get xtra power out of it you can do to a bigger motor. So how can you really argue that small is better. Only benefit to small motor is weight reduction in motor and usually overall car weight. Hp+torque-weight = speed.

If you dont have 8 dont step up to the pl8

I generally agree with you but there arent many 8's that come TC'ed fromt he factory. I think there is more benefit from a medium sized well built turboed engine than an N/A 8 cyl engine.

Conceptually at every 14.7 psi of boost you get twice the engine. Cranking it up is easy as fuel system/turbo.

Very easy very efficent very clean. Example: 3.8l Turbo Grand Nationals Ive seen MANY of them eat big blocks for lunch.

I do agree that when all things are equal there is no replacement for displacement. Well at least until they start making gas turbine engines for cars....

[ilikePB]

460 HP isnt all that unreasonable in modern day TC/IC ed variants.

There are many stretable EVO 8's and WRX's that hit that point at 2l...

I'm not saying it can't happen but it's definately not common. There are tons of ricers here in Florida and I have only been beat by one and all my T/A has done to it is cat back exhaust and cai. After I beef up my car I'll be puttin down about 575hp(I know this cause I'm copying someone elses setup and they dyno'd at 575 rwhp) and it won't take much and it'll do it with virtually no strain on the parts I'll be using. How much do EVO 8's cost, from what I heard it's over 30 grand, for that much I could build a McLaren F1 killer. If we are gunna keep goin up, how about the Top Fuel dragsters, 1/4 mile in 4 sec. No import powered vehicle in the world can do that, not one! What does that prove, there is more power potential in bigger American engines.

If you dont have 8 dont step up to the pl8

True.

[ilikePB]

It's actually a derogatory statement. I think?

The term 'Imports' in Car-World means Cars from Japan.

Japanese are often times called "Rice" simply because a lot of Rice comes from Japan. That's where the derogatory-ness comes from. ***EDIT: This statement also refers to the rest of the Oriental World. China, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc., etc.

So a car from Japan, Import, is called a Ricer. How the term evolved from an Import to an Import with all show and no go I have no idea. But that's basically where the term comes from.

See Mango, I'm not ALWAYS crazy. :P

I don't think anyone means it in a derogatory way axcept in dissing(sp) the cars. I even have a couple friends with ricers that call them that. But if you wanna pretend to be more politically correct or something go ahead and make a big deal out of something that isn't.

politically correct

EDIT: I like the gun thing, it's cool.

[SCpoloRicker]

1400 Hp Supra

Evo's make about 200 wheel HP, I think. Something like 225 at the fly.

460, even from a high boost engine, is REALLY pushing the motor. Have to increase the boost tons. Probably need all types of new internals.

I'm tempted to stop, cuz you're killing me...

But then again, I think we'll let you keep going.

STI's and EVO are freaking sweet, though. Gotta give ya that.

[Chris42050]

I do have to admit tho that there is 1 replacement for displacement and that is weight.

[Empyreal Rogue]

I don't think anyone means it in a derogatory way axcept in dissing(sp) the cars. I even have a couple friends with ricers that call them that. But if you wanna pretend to be more politically correct or something go ahead and make a big deal out of something that isn't.

politically correct

EDIT: I like the gun thing, it's cool.

I mean that it was a derogatory term towards people of Oriental decent.

[brianlojeck]

but I take it refers to the Fast and the Furious crowd. But how did they become known as "Ricers"?

Because a racing civic, due to the high-pitched whine it makes with it's tiny little engine, was said to sound like a rice-grinder by big american-muscle-car drivers, thus combining racism with automotive humor.

and I drive a 14-year-old Ford Bronco II. Stock, except for the tranny which crapped all it's fluid all over the freeway and ate itself up.

[ilikePB]

1400 Hp Supra

Evo's make about 200 wheel HP, I think. Something like 225 at the fly.

460, even from a high boost engine, is REALLY pushing the motor. Have to increase the boost tons. Probably need all types of new internals.

I'm tempted to stop, cuz you're killing me...

But then again, I think we'll let you keep going.

STI's and EVO are freaking sweet, though. Gotta give ya that.

The Supra's are the king of rice. But, the most hp i've seen one hit w/ stock block is 900hp(still A LOT), not saying they aren't out there with 1,000hp+, I just haven't seen one. The Evo's are actually damn fast for a stock ricer. I thought they were 275hp at the fly wheel, but I could be wrong. I do think you are right on 460hp pushing the internals to the brink. A stock 350(with cast internals) doesn't like to go that high(actually it would probably blow a short while later). Unless those little engines come with forged internals stock, it's not possible on cast.