Are the Majority of Paintball Players Ricers at Heart?

[Butterfingers]

I'm not saying it can't happen but it's definately not common. There are tons of ricers here in Florida and I have only been beat by one and all my T/A has done to it is cat back exhaust and cai. After I beef up my car I'll be puttin down about 575hp(I know this cause I'm copying someone elses setup and they dyno'd at 575 rwhp) and it won't take much and it'll do it with virtually no strain on the parts I'll be using. How much do EVO 8's cost, from what I heard it's over 30 grand, for that much I could build a McLaren F1 killer. If we are gunna keep goin up, how about the Top Fuel dragsters, 1/4 mile in 4 sec. No import powered vehicle in the world can do that, not one! What does that prove, there is more power potential in bigger American engines.




True.

There is definately more power potential in displacement very true.

However given bolt on mods and what the average joe would do v8's and Turboed cars are generally pretty competitive for the same price in mods.

If we search the EVO forums you can get an evo into the 11's for just around $2000 no nitrous.

The WRX STI can be made to do low low 12's with mere bolt ons.

Both cars pull over .92-.98 g's on the skidpad are AWD and come with BIGarse brembos front and rear.

A Supra turbo will produce over 1000HP! without even touching the factory internals!

For cars that will run 0.98 g's on the skidpad and produce slalom numbers rivaling 911 turbos. Outbrake 360 modenas and generally give high dollar exotics a run for thier money.

They will also eat snow and mud and wont complain.

[ilikePB]

I mean that it was a derogatory term towards people of Oriental decent.

we are talkin bout cars.

[Butterfingers]

1400 Hp Supra

1331 is pretty close

https://www.to4r.com

[Butterfingers]

1400 Hp Supra

Evo's make about 200 wheel HP, I think. Something like 225 at the fly.

460, even from a high boost engine, is REALLY pushing the motor. Have to increase the boost tons. Probably need all types of new internals.

I'm tempted to stop, cuz you're killing me...

But then again, I think we'll let you keep going.

STI's and EVO are freaking sweet, though. Gotta give ya that.

The WRX may need a motor rebuilt abut the EVO definately can handle over 500 whp with stock internals.

[Butterfingers]

Unless those little engines come with forged internals stock, it's not possible on cast.

Yep STI's come with forged internals and Semi Closed Deck Blocks

Supra Internals are Forged

as well as EVO internals

[ilikePB]

There is definately more power potential in displacement very true.

However given bolt on mods and what the average joe would do v8's and Turboed cars are generally pretty competitive for the same price in mods.

If we search the EVO forums you can get an evo into the 11's for just around $2000 no nitrous.

You can get an LS1 Camaro into 11's with bolt-ons (www.ls1tech.com look around the forums).

The WRX STI can be made to do low low 12's with mere bolt ons.

Look at above statement.

Both cars pull over .92-.98 g's on the skidpad are AWD and come with BIGarse brembos front and rear.

I'm not sure on the g's for F-bodies, but I know you can modify the suspension and the frame to get some serious handling abilities.

A Supra turbo will produce over 1000HP! without even touching the factory internals!

They MUST come with forged internals. However with the price of a Supra you could take a used Vette of the same year and modify it to 1,000+hp also.

For cars that will run 0.98 g's on the skidpad and produce slalom numbers rivaling 911 turbos. Outbrake 360 modenas and generally give high dollar exotics a run for thier money.

I honestly don't care to much about handling. I'm WAY more into drag racing. American muscle powered cars dominate the 1/4 mile, argue all you want, go watch NHRA for proof that V8 american cars rule it.

They will also eat snow and mud and wont complain.

I live in Florida so I don't care.

I've seen fast rice and I give it props. I don't diss fast cars. What I hate is the posers with body kits, 5 ft. tall wings, wild paint jobs and a million stickers(with a stock motor) and think they are all that.

[ilikePB]

The WRX may need a motor rebuilt abut the EVO definately can handle over 500 whp with stock internals.

Yeah, I haven't seen em hit 500(not saying it's not possible), but I have seen one with 400hp. That's pretty cool.

[ilikePB]

Yep STI's come with forged internals and Semi Closed Deck Blocks

Supra Internals are Forged

as well as EVO internals

That's pretty cool for stock.

[ilikePB]

However given bolt on mods and what the average joe would do v8's and Turboed cars are generally pretty competitive for the same price in mods.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. However, V8's most definately have more hp potential in the long run.

[Butterfingers]

I've seen fast rice and I give it props. I don't diss fast cars. What I hate is the posers with body kits, 5 ft. tall wings, wild paint jobs and a million stickers(with a stock motor) and think they are all that.

Absolutely! I hate that too. Man I want to kill those peeps. The worst is the ricer civic that revs at everything they see. I HATE that.

If I were to build a budget drag car though it would HAVE to be a Turbo Grand National.

Ultimate sleeper would have to be CY/TY's but they are hard to find.

I live in NY snow is a huge friggin problem.

[ilikePB]

If I were to build a budget drag car though it would HAVE to be a Turbo Grand National.

GN's are sweet. My budget drag car is my 94 T/A that I haven't started yet. I'm gunna reduild it, have it bored .030 over, forged pistons, forged crank, h-beam connecting rods, chromoly push rods, some beefy valve springs, Crane gold race roller rockers, a custon ground cam for a turbo, bigger injectors and fuel pump, ported and polished heads, ported intake manifold, and a garret turbo(with some other goodies) runnin about 10psi of boost(550hp) for daily driving and 13-15psi(not sure on hp but it'll be over 600) of boost for kickin posches and other exotics in the arse. I figure it has 167k miles on it so it needs a rebuild anyway so I might as well spruce it up a bit while I'm in there.

[Butterfingers]

I might as well spruce it up a bit while I'm in there.

Thats alot of "sprucing up" !

Are you custom making the turbo kit? I wasent aware of a kit for the LT1.

[steveo356]

well i myself am a american muscle type of customizer. im only 16 n i have in my garage a 74 custom molded hardtail frame. Ive wroked on pickin the right paint job for nearly a year now and im trading my mint condition honda night hawk for a sportster 1000 motor. I don't think youd call it a ricer ... maybe showbike but never ricer. too me a ricer is a car or bike that its all bark and no bite. not to be flaming ne 1 but thats my 2 cents

steveo

[ilikePB]

Thats alot of "sprucing up" !

Are you custom making the turbo kit? I wasent aware of a kit for the LT1.

There are 2 Lt1 turbo kits that I know of. Here are the web sites:

STS turbos
Pro Turbo Kits

The Pro Turbo Kit is a conventional turbo set up. The STS is remote mount, in some ways the STS sounds to good to be true. Trust me it's not, I know the owner. I met him while I was out in Utah. They have some wicked fast cars with a small amount of modifications. I know I can get at least 550hp with 10psi of boost and the mods I'll be doing. STS rocks.

Turbos=

[Empyreal Rogue]

we are talkin bout cars.

Yes I know, I've kept up with this thread quite well.

Someone asked where the term "Ricer" came from and I answered to my knowledge. Then you said something that didn't have to do with cars, lets see...

I don't think anyone means it in a derogatory way axcept in dissing(sp) the cars. I even have a couple friends with ricers that call them that. But if you wanna pretend to be more politically correct or something go ahead and make a big deal out of something that isn't.

Then I said...

I mean that it was a derogatory term towards people of Oriental decent.

Which, in fact, was and might still be.

But I guess to get back onto, sort of, this Car topic- I certainly can't wait till I get a very good paying job so I can build up my Integra. I'm going for a total sleeper look. Keeping the stock rims (which are pretty nice anyway, 8 spoke 16's), Dual Brake Discs and Pads, coil-overs, Turbo, keeping the stock muffler and installing a Butterfly Valve, Injen Cold Air Intake, Front and Rear Strut Bars, Install the gauges into the Glove Compartment, Ceramic Headers, Yokohama AVID H4 Tires, and a Short-Shifter. Just the basics.

The real reason I want a sleeper is because I can't find any very good Body Kits out there. Most of them just don't really appeal to me. But I certainly will miss my 31 MPG on the Highway and 26 City. :\