Spyder Mag

[Destructo6]

i just dont understand how he got the sear assembly to work correctly:-/.

Yes, and that there are no images doesn't help. I'd like to see the modified Automag sear alone and how the Spyder sear interacts with the Automag sear.

There's another one floating around where the Spyder solenoid is reversed, so it pushes toward the rear of the frame.

Need detailed pictures.

[Enemy]

odd how anything to do with mags gets flamed on pbn but talk of putting a spyder frame on a mag and all the flaming goes away.. anyways good job i dont see how you did it but with pics i can understand.. ask your buddy if he can try this with the old pmi e frames they have a much better trigger set up than the spyder frames but thats just a thought.

[shivors]

Also, the Kingman ESP frames are pretty good frames. Sometimes it's surprising to hear "Kingman" and "good" in the same sentence, but this frame has set a base for modifying and customization. It works great stock, and can work even better modified.

Why is that? There is no reason to be an elitist asshat. Kingman has made good markers for many many years. I have three of them and they all run perfectly.

[tonybhall]

Hey Guys,

Please don't turn my thread into a Kingan vs ???? flame waiting to happen thread. Thanks.

As far as having this annoed or doing it with another type frame: Daniel did this mod to get better performance out of his mag. I don't think he cares about having it annoed, or what the trigger looks like or trying it on another frame. He really just did this us and we thought we'd share it.

As soon as he gets his pc back I will get him to post pics of the sear. I would do it but he lives about an hour away from me. He should be back up and running my next week and will be able to handle any questions that I can not and post some pics.

BTW, the one where the guys turns the solenoid around requires a lot more work.

[Chipper]

How come none of you guys responded this well to the last 3 threads about this? Do you not like my threads? J/King! But yeah, I want to see a way that I could give a frame and my mag to someone and have them do it for me, cause I would just mess it all up.

[barberjohn]

im sorry if this has already been asked, but what is this frame going for? if we want one can we just send you the money and you send us the frame? also, do yall have access to T-boards if we buy a frame from you?

[desslock]

hey Tony I think your idea is great I too was wondering what the big deal on "broken parts" is. Most peeps here started on a classic valves then either bought or did a trade in for the x valve. When you trade in ur old valve all agd wants is the valve no bolt no elbows no body and no sear. When the x valve comes out it has a sear and pin. Therefore unless the majority of x valve users bought it w/out the trade in then they should have 2 sears/pin sets. All you do is remove the rod and file away some body of the sear? If you F it up real bad just replace/buy a new sear and rod and back to mech mag you go. whats the big deal? frankenstein guns are fun! Tony Im awating some pics and more detailed instrctions once ur buddy's pc is back up & running, I for one cant wait to try this bad *** mod out! Thanks again for the info T !!!

[tonybhall]

im sorry if this has already been asked, but what is this frame going for? if we want one can we just send you the money and you send us the frame? also, do yall have access to T-boards if we buy a frame from you?

New ESP Spyder frames are about $90.00. I have seen them for as little as $50.00 used. Prices do not include a charger.

Daniel has not decided if he will be doing this mod for others yet. He will decide after he does mine and has a better idea how much time will be involved and how much he would have to charge to make it worth his time but still affordable for our fellow mag lovers.

He or I will be getting back with each person that asked by pm and posting info here as we know more.

Also, I think it would be better for each person to send the parts instead of Daniel ordering them for you. This way he is not taking on too much liability and overhead. As for getting a t-board. That mod is basicly a drop in. He would probably just mod the frame. If you wanted a t-board, you could put one of those in yourself.

[tonybhall]

***Update, Daniel is getting his PC back this evening and may be back online as early as tonight or tomorrow. I will defer any future comments concerning this mod to him unless he asks me to field any questions. Thanks everyone for your interests.

[tonybhall]

Update

********NEW UPDATE**********

I talked to Daniel today. I gave him the stuff to do the mod on my mag. He plans to take pics of each step of the process and post them here when he is done. He said he wanted to post the pics from mine because he thought he could do a better job on it now that he knows exactly what he is doing. He should be done in a few days. Expect an update from him with new pics and video by in about a week.

Also, I shot his today. It is so much faster than it was when we shot the video. He did a modification to the micro switch making it a lighter trigger pull. Now, out running the stock board in the spyder trigger frame is childs play. We will have to get a T-board and see how fast we can get it up to.

Thanks for everyone's patients.

[tonybhall]

update 2
another update.....

I realized that I omited one step in my description of this mod. It has now been updated and can be seen on the first page of

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread....975#post5851975